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Dual 1219 makes noise when off?

John,

Should have left her there, as I jokingly said I would do.

Anyway, the motor is simple to remove, disassemble, and lube.

But that is for another day.

Seth
Forever Analog and Covered In Parrot Poop
 
You have a 1219 that was designed for sale outside of the US. You can tell by the switchable voltage on the power junction box, as well as that small lead weight screwed on the bottom of the chassis. That's there to reduce the "ringing" of the chassis. When United Audio imported them, they had Dual do away with that step.

Anyway, I've never seen a 1219 set up like yours with a separate ground wire - that's a US only thing (another long story - UA said American consumers would not buy a table without that wire). What was done everywhere else was to use in integral ground wire. Remove the cover on the muting switch (that box on the bottom where tonearm wiring goes). It snaps off. Look on the left hand side of the switch. Do you see a jumper wire soldered to the two left hand terminals, and then continuing on to that 3eared post screwed to the chassis through the muting switch bottom plate? If you do, that's your ground, and ground is achieved through the RCA jacks. If you hook up that separate ground wire as well, you get ground loop.

Hi,

Thank you for the information, I will check it out next weekend, I am going to take the motor apart and lube the bearings, I guess.
The manual that came with this 1219 was in German, it came in it's original box too, without a base.

Thanks again,
John.:music:
 
Good Morning,

OK, I am going to take apart the motor and lube the bearings today, so far up to this point, I can hear the motor switch click off but, it takes a minute or so, and does not do it all the time. I have been moving the speed lever slightly to make it shut off the motor.

UPDATE: I have the motor out, need to get some expanding pliers from Harbor Freight to open the motor halves.
Here is a picture of the switch, I noticed it does not look straight and it does not work well when the lever is pushed. I adjusted it a bit to make it work on/off. Pic attached.

Havin Fun...
JOhn.:music:
 
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Either the "main lever" pivot point or the speed selector adjusting shaft is improperly lubricated, causing it to hang up. If the mechanism is totally free, the on off contact switch in the bakolite housing where the 110/220 V switch is needs to be slightly adjusted. This is rare, but can happen.

Remove the power cord and cover and observe the switch as you move the tonearm from off to on, and back. The spring loaded "fork" that closes the contacts and then opens them should snap to on, and then to off. If not, a slight adjustment is in order.
 
You can see that the lever arm that the idler wheel is mounted on slides up and down on a tubular shaft about 3mm in diameter, and that the up/down motion is caused by a plastic "gearshift" frame activated directly by the speed selector knob. The idler arm not only moves up and down; it pivots side to side.

When the assembly gets sticky, the arm assembly freezes on the shaft. It is the side to side motion of the arm assembly on the shaft that can cause the motor to stay on. This is because the long main on/off lever assembly is coupled to the idler arm with a spring.

Now the entire mechanism (esp. the arm ass'y and shaft) may be cleaned in situ, using solvent and q-tips, and by manually working the assembly to loosen it up. When I use this method, I relube the arm and shaft with oil or teflon. The best method, however, is to take the entire mechanism apart and clean the whole thing very carefully; then relube and reinstall. I warn you, however, this is a tricky disassembly/reassembly job, and you're advised to take notes, so to speak, on how the mechanism comes apart, or you'll be doing a lot of head-scratching getting it back together.

I use a small ultrasonic cleaner, but again q-tips and solvent will do.

Fred
 
1219 done?

Hi Gang,

OK, I pulled the motor and took it apart, looks pretty good, oiled the bearings. I adjusted the switch, put it all back together, sounds ok.

It shuts off now when the record ends as the arm is at its rest! YES! Done..Finally...

UPDATE: I had to go and adjust the spindle height, the pitch was off, out of range, sounds great now.I used the mp3 version of "Suite:Judy Blue Eyes" for pitch alignment with the LP.

Pictures below.
Thanks for ALL your help everyone!

John.:music:
 
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