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Dynaco stereo120a Restoration


I have had this unit for many years. The last time it was in service was about 15 years ago. As far as I can remember, it was working well. I did not test the unit before I began working because I was worried about causing damage by powering up before some capacitors had been changed.

I originally planned on changing all the capacitors but due to the high price of replacing the large chassis mounted caps (C7, C9, C11, C12), I decided to change all the other electrolytics on the boards and power the unit up slowly with a dim bulb and a variac, hoping the large caps would reform and survive.

Physical:

First, I began with cleaning. The unit was so grungy and rusted that I had no choice but to remove everything from the chassis. I used a metal polish to clean the chrome as best as could be expected being careful not to clean off the screen printing, cleaned all the screws, nuts, connectors, clamps, caps, boards, wires….it was really dirty. The upper painted cage cleaned up well and needed no paint.

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I checked the values of all the parts to see that it matched the schematic. I used a caliper to measure all the parts that I planned to replace so I could pick proper parts to order. Then, I reinstalled all the parts in the chassis.

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Electrical:

I wanted to keep the amp as original as possible and keep all the original transistors and circuit design. This amp is a piece of history. It is one of the first mass-produced solid-state amplifiers rated at 60W per channel.

I downloaded all the schematics and info I could find on the unit and compared the actual circuit to the different versions of schematics to determine which version I had. Below are some resources I used.

https://www.updatemydynaco.com/Stereo120Repair.htm

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/dynaco/stereo-120.shtml

https://www.updatemydynaco.com/documents/TIPmod.pdf (I did not do the TIP mod)

https://davidreaton.com/dynaco/stereo-120/

After considering all the options from rebuilding -to- modifying, I decided what parts I wanted to change. Then, I placed orders with Digi-Key and Mouser for parts. (parts list attached in Excel format)

I removed each board one at a time to replace parts and reinstalled.

Some minor changes were made based on availability of parts and minor upgrades that Dynaco implemented in later years of production to improve reliability.

1. I changed R16 and R17 on the amplifier boards. They were poorly installed originally and were leaving burn marks in the boards. I went up in value from 7W to 8W and used a through hole type to facilitate safer heat dissipation.

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2. I raised the voltage values of some of the capacitors for fit and availability on the amp boards.

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3. I changed C13 and added C15 as per Dynaco’ s last version of the amp. All the other circuit changes were already implemented by the production of my particular unit. Pictured below is what I believe is the last circuit iteration.

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4. I doubled the capacitance of C10 on the Power board to slow down the initial startup charging of C12 and protect the power supply’s pass transistor. This is not necessary unless C12 is increased in capacity which I may do in the future. (Refer to updatemydynaco.com power supply upgrade section)


I will probably get replacement large caps if the amp proves to work well on initial testing (my choices for these caps are on the parts list attached). The website updatemydynaco.com has a good solution for the larger caps that is much cheaper using smaller caps wired together but I like the classic look of the larger more expensive caps.

I am also considering adding a thermistor (Amphenol CL-80) to the front end to slow down the inrush current on startup. The thermistor also has the advantage of lowering the mains voltage slightly. Current house power is about 125V which is higher than older designs call for. I will only try this after I have tested and benchmarked the amp.

First Test:

I hooked up a signal generator to the left and right inputs of the amp – output turned down. The outputs were hooked up to an 8-ohm dummy load and an oscilloscope. Power from wall through a dim bulb, to variac, to amp. The variac set to 20V for ½ hour, then 60V for 20 min, then slowly up to 115V for testing.

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While slowly applying input signal at 1K Hz I got a good sine wave back up to about 30W (~15.5V), and then the signal would crash. The dim bulb would flash upon applying voltage to the unit as expected during the inrush current that charges the capacitors, and then go dim. As I applied the input signal, the bulbs would get brighter until the waveform would crash and then stay bright until I turned off the input signal. Then it would dim again. I started up again and tested the VDC on C12. It measured 74.1vdc which is within the acceptable range, so I figured the power supply was working ok. I removed the dim bulb from the circuit and powered up again. Without the current limiting of the dim bulb tester, I was able to get a great 1KHz sine wave at about 62 W (~22.3V) on the output. I did not push harder since that was 2W past the rating of the amp. I have no idea what output wattage would have caused the wave to distort (62W is enough from this amp). I ran the amp at 50W(20V) for about ½ hour and all was fine – she ran cool and stable. Then I hit the amp with a square wave at 50W for about 45 seconds at 100Hz, 1K, and 10K – all looked great. I did a sweep with a sine wave from 10Hz to 25KHz, and the amp seemed to be very linear. This was just a visual with an old analog oscilloscope so I don’t have numbers, just a visual check. I do not have a distortion meter, so all I can say is that the waveform seemed fine. There was no roll off on the bass end down to 10Hz and the top end had only a slight roll off after 20KHz. Amazing!

That’s all the testing I have the equipment to do - so it’s on to the speakers!

Test Equipment:

1. RCA | WA-504B/44D Audio Generator

2. ELENCO | S1325 Oscilloscope

3. STACO | type 500B Variac

4. Home built Dim bulb tester.

5. Home built 8ohm - 100W non-inductive dummy load.

test setup.jpg Test Setup

I'll be back to let you guys know how it sounds!
 
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I have two files to add.
The first is a list of the parts I planned to change and the measurements made with the caliper to insure proper fit of new parts.
The second is the parts I ordered with numbers and prices from Mouser and DigiKey
 

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Sometime in the late 1960s, when McIntosh was still doing amplifier clinics, we had access to look through a stack of graphs, probably from the previous days testing. So many units were simply quite bad, even at low power. BUT the Dynaco 120 put out an honest 60 watts, both channels driven, at McIntosh distortion levels of 0.25% harmonic distortion down to 30 Hz, where it suddenly shot off the top of the graph. That must have been the point where the regulated power supply simply ran out of power. Still very impressive for that era.
 
Sometime in the late 1960s, when McIntosh was still doing amplifier clinics, we had access to look through a stack of graphs, probably from the previous days testing. So many units were simply quite bad, even at low power. BUT the Dynaco 120 put out an honest 60 watts, both channels driven, at McIntosh distortion levels of 0.25% harmonic distortion down to 30 Hz, where it suddenly shot off the top of the graph. That must have been the point where the regulated power supply simply ran out of power. Still very impressive for that era.
Pretty cool that they would even look at any other brands in one of those clinics.
Your avatar is great. I refurbished one of those 45 changers about 8 yrs ago.image.jpg
 
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Pretty cool that they would even look at any other brands in one of those clinics.
Your avatar is great. I refined one of those 45 changers about 8 yrs ago.View attachment 2796334

The clinics would test any power amplifier, including integrated or receiver, as long as it had a power amplifier. Potential customers would see two things: Their equipment was grossly inferior to McIntosh and any Mc equipment that did not meet spec was repaired on the spot, free of charge, regardless of age. If it could not be brought up to spec, it was replaced free of charge with an equivalent new unit. Very powerful advertising.

The avitar was my first record player that plugged into the back of a modified Silvertone AC-DC radio for the amplifier. The record player is long gone so the picture is from eBay.
 
Had one of those ST120s. It was one of the first amps I restored. My case was very clean chrome. I suspect it had little use. Did the TIP mod and MOFSET mod. and replaced the smaller caps. The amp ran cool and clean.
 
Former Glory?? When Dynaco went belly up in 1980, the sales rep came by our store with a trunk load of kit form Dynaco, (no 400s MK4's or st70's).Knowing that he was never going to get his commision check he was selling it all really cheap. I got a ST120, Pat 5, and FM5 for around $110. Built it, listened to it and sold it, unimpressed, couldn't compete with the SWTPC that I was using at the time. I do now have a ST 150 that is much better.
 
I have a beautiful 400 and PAT4 I just look at because they no longer work. I can't find anyone who can get them running again. They have not run since 1971. Original owner was a soldier who never came back from Vietnam and unfortunately they sat unused until my friend bought them for me 2 years ago. Good luck with you revival I f your unit. It must be satisfying to be able to do this stuff. I can't see well or I would have at least tried. The 400 seems to be quite difficult to even get open
 
I have a beautiful 400 and PAT4 I just look at because they no longer work. I can't find anyone who can get them running again. They have not run since 1971. Original owner was a soldier who never came back from Vietnam and unfortunately they sat unused until my friend bought them for me 2 years ago. Good luck with you revival I f your unit. It must be satisfying to be able to do this stuff. I can't see well or I would have at least tried. The 400 seems to be quite difficult to even get open
The 400 is a great looking amp and has a decent reputation for sound. There must be someone close that can fix it. Maybe someone on the forum can help. I'm in LA so...pretty far away. If you are like me you don't want to ship your units.
Too many people never came home. "Be the first family on the block to have your boy come home in a box"- Country Joe and the Fish.
 
Years( many) ago I built a PAT-4 and a ST-120 and thought they sounded ok. I don’t have the mechanical skills to completely redo either at this point but if I chose to try to turn the amplifier into something more modern/acceptable what would be the best options beyond recapping. I don’t want to turn it into a chip amp leaving only the transformer from the original design.
 
I’m just about to embark on re-doing one myself. Just finished a PAT-4 ( 1974 with the greenish fiberglass boards ) which I kept stock and only replaced all the electrolytic caps. Sounded great after that and deoxing all the switches and contacts.
The 120 is marginally functional currently.
I’m going to start with the existing circuit and just replace the caps and carbon comp resistors to start with. I’m going to start with leaving the shells of the speaker coupling caps in place and putting the somewhat smaller replacement 3300uf caps in the shells with the inductor windings in place. The other three big cans will be installed in similar manner. I’ll use higher voltage but same value caps on the boards. I like the idea of using the thermistor to manage the inrush and slightly drop the voltage. This one has a date on the cans that suggests it was 1971 production. It too has the phenolic boards. I wonder if they switched to fiberglass towards the end of the run of the 120.

I realize that the ST-150 and the Hafler DH-120 I already have sitting on the shelf are probably going to beat the pants off of it but the reason for going to all this effort is to recreate the system that adorned the rec room at my folks house when I was a teen. With these and an FM-5 along with KLH-6 and an AR-XA with an M-91ed I’ll be able to say “ Dang, my ears ain’t what they used to be “

But I already knew that…

Im hoping to find someone in the Chicago area with an FM stereo generator and the skill to align analog fm stereo circuitry.
 
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Years( many) ago I built a PAT-4 and a ST-120 and thought they sounded ok. I don’t have the mechanical skills to completely redo either at this point but if I chose to try to turn the amplifier into something more modern/acceptable what would be the best options beyond recapping. I don’t want to turn it into a chip amp leaving only the transformer from the original design.
Updatemydynaco.com does have some great options at reasonable prices to upgrade the ST-120. They sell in different sections so you could do just the power supply, or the amps. Their kits do use discreet parts from what I can remember - so not a chip amp - but not really a Dynaco either when your finished. I'm not affiliated with this website....I just thought the product looked very well thought out and doable with minimal skills.
I’m going to start with the existing circuit and just replace the caps and carbon comp resistors to start with. I’m going to start with leaving the shells of the speaker coupling caps in place and putting the somewhat smaller replacement 3300uf caps in the shells with the inductor windings in place. The other three big cans will be installed in similar manner. I’ll use higher voltage but same value caps on the boards. I like the idea of using the thermistor to manage the inrush and slightly drop the voltage. This one has a date on the cans that suggests it was 1971 production. It too has the phenolic boards. I wonder if they switched to fiberglass towards the end of the run of the 120.
You are doing more than I did! Re-stuffing the large caps is a chore. Make sure to somehow leave a date of re-stuff on the capacitors for the next tech that gets in there. I also left all the CC resistors as they tested within spech. Good luck with the project!
Post a pick of the finished job, I'd love to see it!
I will post a pic soon of the finished product.
 
“You are doing more than I did! Re-stuffing the large caps is a chore. Make sure to somehow leave a date of re-stuff on the capacitors for the next tech that gets in there. I also left all the CC resistors as they tested within spech. Good luck with the project!”

The cans will be labeled with the re-stuff date.
( I’m guessing that the rebuild may just outlast the amateur tech that did it! )

I just don’t trust old electrolytic caps.
Once it’s going, I shotgun them all.
The CC resistors are probably good but while I’m in there, replacing with 1/2 watt 1%….
By 1971, transistor quality was such that I would imagine they’d possibly outlast me.

Your Elenco scope is much newer than mine, a 1962 Knight kit that is still ticking along.

UpdateMyDynaco is a great operation, they can provide goodies ( I just exchanged email with him ) to bring your Dyna stuff up to modern level. The only reason I’m not starting there is my desire to recreate the vintage system.

If I want to be even more accurate with my re-creation I may add the second turntable, a BSR 400 record changer that was used to stack 45s, 78s and albums for party duty.
 
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So there was no problems with bumping up the value of C7,C9,C12 ? when using the original PS and Amp boards? I'm going to do the TIP mode and looking at MJ15015 for output transistors may have to use some NTE stuff also. What do you think ? 2N3773 Dan recommends for outputs.
 
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I left the large caps in place so I can't answer that. I also did not do the TIP Mod. I have been putting about 20 hrs a week on the amp since I finished it. It is performing well. @podbaydoors may have some info for you. He is taking his unit further than I did.
 
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The amp started having a hum. It was not too loud but getting worse. I never did replace the large electrolytic caps so I ordered three of the 5. I replaced C9 and C12 in the power supply. C11 seemed fine so I left it and the two C7's in the output coupling position were OK so I left them also.
C9, 11, 7, 7 were all great looking electric green caps made in Scotland, of all places. They all seamed OK. C12 was a silver, made in America and it had leaked on the chassis and eaten some of the chrome below it. The hum is gone and all is well. I could have left C9 in place but I changed it before I discovered the leaking of C12.
C12 is the large blue Mallory replacement in the pictures below. Due to fit and availability I replaced with a

598-DCMC153U100CH2D
15000uf @ 100V
much higher than the 3300uf @ 100V that was there but it should serve well. It fits and is available.
Enjoy the pics!system.jpg

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Very nice work. I missed this thread when you first posted it.
Nice dynaco system. I'm more into dynaco tube gear myself, but if I ran across a SS Dynaco amp locally I would probably jump on it.
They produced some decent equipment at very reasonable prices.
I had a PAT4 for awhile. It was a basket case when I found it. It took a lot.of work to bring it back. I still have a FM3 tuner I restored, a Dynakit clone ST-35 amplifier, and a ST-70 with a VTA driver board. I'm keeping an eye out for a FM5 tuner for sale locally.
 
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