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A lot can be done with cables and room treatment ..you can emphasize and de-emphasize most characteristics of what you're listening to ..
It can help to start with the right gear tho ..

i.e. My big living room without curtains and a wood floor and reflective surfaces, doesn't do any favors for my little PSB Alpha speakers with their metallic cones .. Their resonances are emphasized by the room reflections... but they sound fine in the smaller bedroom with carpeting and curtains and almost no exposed floor.
The exact reverse is true with my Snell K2's with paper cones .. smooth, sweet, and detailed in the living room but a little dull in the bedroom ..

I could treat either room to suit the speakers but the redecorating would result in me living in the doghouse and not listening to anything ..
 
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I hear you. OK, maybe I'll try some kind of absorption stuff. The room is carpeted and there is furniture...couch, recliner...etc. I have suspected before that the sibilance might be at least partially caused by the walls which are the old 1970's brown wood paneling found in colonial style homes like mine. If I were to try say a few blankets and pillows, where would you suggest I start? Behind the speakers, far corners...or maybe just trial and error to see what happens?
 
There is a local company called Domes Audio/Video, perhaps they could come out and give some suggestions...Not sure if I want to go that route...but maybe...
 
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I hear you. OK, maybe I'll try some kind of absorption stuff. The room is carpeted and there is furniture...couch, recliner...etc. I have suspected before that the sibilance might be at least partially caused by the walls which are the old 1970's brown wood paneling found in colonial style homes like mine. If I were to try say a few blankets and pillows, where would you suggest I start? Behind the speakers, far corners...or maybe just trial and error to see what happens?
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That's actually a good easy experiment ...
Just temporarily hang a bunch of towels, comforters, and any other thick cloths on your walls and see if it is still there ...
Just cover as much wall area as you can and if you can, don't leave uncovered areas across from one another ..
Not gonna change your bass but that will definitely change your mids and treble ..
 
The object is to not leave open areas across from each other .. you should be able to mostly cover at least two walls ...
don't worry about the bottom couple feet of the wall ..
 
Just shoot for ... from just over your head to your knees and at least 2 walls ..
If that doesn't change it then treat all walls except the one behind the speakers .. it's least important for now ..
 
OK... when I get some time, for the heck of it, I'll give this a go. At the very least it should be kind've fun.
 
It has been a while...just a quick note to let folks know that I have put together a system that is working for me...ears and all! I am three weeks in and happy...Marantz HD AMP1, Marantz HD CD1, and Cambridge Audio SX 50 bookshelf speakers. The speakers are a bit smaller than pretty much every other bookshelf speakers I have owned, but they sound good! They go down to 50hz, so they are fine on their own for me. I know this isn't an ultra audiophile system...if you read my posts, I've been pretty close! But this is a nice sounding little system that I can tolerate. I am happy with it. Honestly, the sound-staging is terrific! Not many previous systems have bettered it. I suppose the area that would let down most audiophiles would be the bass, but it is full enough that I don't notice anything missing. The journey ends here. :-)
 
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It has been a while...just a quick note to let folks know that I have put together a system that is working for me...ears and all! I am three weeks in and happy...Marantz HD AMP1, Marantz HD CD1, and Cambridge Audio SX 50 bookshelf speakers. The speakers are a bit smaller than pretty much every other bookshelf speakers I have owned, but they sound good! They go down to 50hz, so they are fine on their own for me. I know this isn't an ultra audiophile system...if you read my posts, I've been pretty close! But this is a nice sounding little system that I can tolerate. I am happy with it. Honestly, the sound-staging is terrific! Not many previous systems have bettered it. I suppose the area that would let down most audiophiles would be the bass, but it is full enough that I don't notice anything missing. The journey ends here. :)
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As long as your happy that’s all that matters , it doesn’t matter about another persons views or an audiophiles views . In your room its all about your views , so if your good then cool , sit back and enjoy and take it all in . Congratulations.

Audiofreak71
 
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Hey there friends! Still happy w the system, but...uh oh...no...I've decided I wanted to check out the new Andrew Jones Elac Debut B6 Reference speakers. Holy crud..all I can say is, if you are in the market for a budget bookshelf speaker, you cannot do better than this! The very first night I had them, they were OK...but maybe a bit overly polite, reserved, and maybe a tad too laid back and boring. The second night was just a ridiculous change... soundstage opened up, highs became much clearer, bass tightened up...these have to take the prize for the most balanced bookshelf speakers I have heard. They are truly remarkable. My ears are handling them OK. I have noted some effects though, so they may not be able to stay for me...I sure would like them to though. The Cambridge Audio SX50s are nifty, really good sounding, very good soundstaging, but not in the same league w detail as the Elacs. Andrew Jones is something.
 
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The new Elac Reference speakers are really freaking awesome! I did send them back becuase the high frequncies (as usual) got my ears a ringing. For most folks, they would be a revelation! Sticking w my little SX-50's. ;-)
 
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The new Elac Reference speakers are really freaking awesome! I did send them back becuase the high frequncies (as usual) got my ears a ringing. For most folks, they would be a revelation! Sticking w my little SX-50's. ;-)
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Good to hear your enjoying your setup

Audiofreak71
 
Yup...it's little and cute and sounds just dandy! :-) I actually have two pairs of the Cambridge SX-50's...one in the downstairs system w the Marantz gear and another in the bedroom paired w a TEAC CR-H101 CD/receiver. Both systems sounds nice and are pretty easy on the ears.
 
For anyone on the fence though about the Elac Reference speakers, do not be...they are absolutely amazing! If my ears weren't so wussified, I would have kept them.
My fave bookshelf speakers from the past few years are: Elac DBR-62, Definitive Technology D11, Cambridge Audio SX-50, Mies S1.
Anyone ever heard the Quad 11L Classic bookshelf speakers? Just curious? ;-) How about the Quad VA-One+ tube integrated amplifier...?
 
Gonna pass on the Quad VA-One+ tube integrated at this point. The Marantz HD-Amp1 is so wonderful. I am, however, going to give a pair of Quad 11L Classic bookshelf speakers a try out. Either way, the SX-50's will stay, but maybe I will retain two pairs of speakers. We shall see...
 

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Short one... Quad 11L Classic bookshelf speakers are added to my list of fave all-time speakers. They sound wonderful! Fuller sound than the SX-50's. More bass. Top end is detailed, has depth and texture, but not bright. If my ears can hang in there w them, the Quads will be my reference. As usual, that remains to be seen...so far I am doing OK w them, but have had some symptoms of my hyperacusis/tinnitus act up. Not bad though. I hope they stay...they are beautiful. More later.
 
Well, just spent hours and hours listening to music throughout the weekend...pretty much Friday night on and off through this evening. The Quad 11L's are luscious and pretty and relaxed and the more I play them, the more I like them. While my tinnitus is a ringing quite a bit, I am not having a significant reaction otherwise. The SX-50's are ready to step in, but as of now, the new reference speakers are the Quads. I am so very grateful (and surprised) that I am able to tolerate such beautiful sounding speakers.
 
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