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Fast amp?

I can say @prrar that there are many "armchair Engineers" in this hobby who have formed a vast level of belief in their own knowledge based on reading a lot of tests, articles about audio, and listening to many sales pitches and their opinion is usually worth what you have paid for it.

The description of "fast" and "slow" music really doesn't mean anything in the world of electronics and audio equipment, the speed of light is the same and the only thing that really relates to speed would be slew rate and frequency response, which has nothing at all to do with the cadence of a musical selection.

I might be wrong, being married has taught me that many times, but it is my opinion that your friends have a strong abililty to regurgitate specs and reviews of others and really not much more.
 
c_dk said:
What is the " speedy" music or "fast" notes they are busting you about?

Still would want to know what their reference is that handles "speedy, fast" music better than your choices.
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Their reference was a Cary SA-200.2 power amp.
 
Yamaki said:
You are basing the performance of your amplifier on the comments of a third party?

How does it sound to you?

"fast amps" ... LOL
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The MC2205 sounds great to me! I don't have any reference for anything 'higher end' than this. My previous setup was a MAC4100 (which I loved) and a MC2105-C32. I'd just like to know if newer McIntosh power amps would perform better regarding the 'attack speed', whatever that means...
 
I assume then you are using the 4 ohm taps on the amp.

I have restored dozens of this series of amps and preamps.

After restoration there is a difference in sound that all have proclaimed to be an improvement.....which certainly makes sense as these units are 40 years old.

Trying to put words to it.......difficult. I would certainly not use fast or speedy. Maybe detail improvement, lower noise floor ok.
 
SaturationPt said:
I can say @prrar that there are many "armchair Engineers" in this hobby who have formed a vast level of belief in their own knowledge based on reading a lot of tests, articles about audio, and listening to many sales pitches and their opinion is usually worth what you have paid for it.

The description of "fast" and "slow" music really doesn't mean anything in the world of electronics and audio equipment, the speed of light is the same and the only thing that really relates to speed would be slew rate and frequency response, which has nothing at all to do with the cadence of a musical selection.

I might be wrong, being married has taught me that many times, but it is my opinion that your friends have a strong abililty to regurgitate specs and reviews of others and really not much more.
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@SaturationPt that makes sense (specially the marriage part :)). My main point here was to understand if there were other aspects and qualities that newer power amps could have when compared to the MC2205.
 
c_dk said:
I assume then you are using the 4 ohm taps on the amp.
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You are correct.

After restoration there is a difference in sound that all have proclaimed to be an improvement.....which certainly makes sense as these units are 40 years old.

Trying to put words to it.......difficult. I would certainly not use fast or speedy. Maybe detail improvement, lower noise floor ok.
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I understand. Restoration would make a difference and it's not always easy to put into words some listening experiences...
 
prrar said:
The MC2205 sounds great to me! I don't have any reference for anything 'higher end' than this. My previous setup was a MAC4100 (which I loved) and a MC2105-C32. I'd just like to know if newer McIntosh power amps would perform better regarding the 'attack speed', whatever that means...
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Well, you are basing an assumption that some amplifiers are slow, with no practical experience, based on comments made by a third party. Your statements are not based in fact and thereby are suspect.

Now you are asking if newer McIntosh amps would perform better based on a term that has no relevancy and within that statement you have once again alluded that older McIntosh amps are slow. Without a reference, how can you make such claims?

My suggestion is go listen to some gear and make up your own mind.
 
Yamaki said:
Without a reference, how can you make such claims?
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By any means, I didn't; I was just trying to understand if such claims could be true or, at least, if they were already discussed (I couldn't find searching this forum).

My suggestion is go listen to some gear and make up your own mind.
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Sure, that's what I want to do. But, here in Brazil, it's not as easy to buy and return products as it is in some other countries.
 
I would certainly hope a new amp would sound better than a 40 year old one, makes for happier customers that way.

I could also contend you have not heard your stock MC2205 doing the best it can.
 
c_dk said:
I would certainly hope a new amp would sound better than a 40 year old one, makes for happier customers that way.

I could also contend you have not heard your stock MC2205 doing the best it can.
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I agree with you on both points.
 
I like to use the word dynamic and yes some "present" different than others thats why people change units or rebuild their old ones.

If this is forty years old and they are comparing it to something newer I can see that as I have experienced going from a 45 year old piece to a 30 year old piece to a 15 year old piece. The newer one always had a little extra something to bring to the table. Personally I would think it should, its newer.
 
NH-MAN said:
I like to use the word dynamic and yes some "present" different than others thats why people change units or rebuild their old ones.

If this is forty years old and they are comparing it to something newer I can see that as I have experienced going from a 45 year old piece to a 30 year old piece to a 15 year old piece. The newer one always had a little extra something to bring to the table. Personally I would think it should, its newer.
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That makes sense. Thanks, @NH-MAN !
 
Since your " friend" dissed you and your choice can we help set you up to diss him?

I would suggest some oenophile terms to start.......
 
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