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FB Marketplace Scam???

Quadman2 said:
Something to chew on:

FBI annual report on cyber scam (2022)- $10.6 Billion.

For checking- $20+ Billion


And indications are...it going to get worse this year!


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Something to chew on. The US is a 23 trillion dollar economy, the fraud you allege is about 31 billion. So, drop nine 0's and we have 31/23000 = 0.0013 = 0.13%... Wow, one tenth of one percent. I'm constantly amazed at the fearful crouch people live in nowadays-- fueled by random horror stories they absorb through media. I see stories about car crash fatalities all the time, but i dont tell people to stop driving. I see lots of stories about spousal abuse in the media, but i dont tell people to never get married. The number of FB, offer up, and CL transactions that go bad is infinitesimally small. I think its ridiculous to live in fear of the community you are part of. I prefer to go out and engage with people face to face like a normal human being. When i sell gear, im happy to give my address, set it up in the garage to demo, and talk to the buyer. I dont think i will be donning a kevlar vest, insisting on police parking lot meetups, and inspecting their cash with a counterfeit detection marker. Adopting the worldview of mistrust, suspicion, apprehension, and standoffishness towards others is problematic and only further deteriorates healthy civil engagement.
 
SKS said:
Something to chew on. The US is a 23 trillion dollar economy, the fraud you allege is about 31 billion. So, drop nine 0's and we have 31/23000 = 0.0013 = 0.13%... Wow, one tenth of one percent. I'm constantly amazed at the fearful crouch people live in nowadays-- fueled by random horror stories they absorb through media. I see stories about car crash fatalities all the time, but i dont tell people to stop driving. I see lots of stories about spousal abuse in the media, but i dont tell people to never get married. The number of FB, offer up, and CL transactions that go bad is infinitesimally small. I think its ridiculous to live in fear of the community you are part of. I prefer to go out and engage with people face to face like a normal human being. When i sell gear, im happy to give my address, set it up in the garage to demo, and talk to the buyer. I dont think i will be donning a kevlar vest, insisting on police parking lot meetups, and inspecting their cash with a counterfeit detection marker. Adopting the worldview of mistrust, suspicion, apprehension, and standoffishness towards others is problematic and only further deteriorates healthy civil engagement.
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I'm totally with you that we're constantly bombarded with inputs designed to instill fear of "the other," when we actually live in an extraordinarily safe period in time (at least in the US). That said, inviting unknown people into one's home where items of value might be visible and might not be so well protected isn't prudent without some amount of vetting of the visitor first. I've sold lots of expensive items to stranger visitors to my home, but not before having enough communication to provide a level of comfort. When people's first inquiry is for my address, I get a little concerned.
 
SKS said:
Something to chew on. The US is a 23 trillion dollar economy, the fraud you allege is about 31 billion. So, drop nine 0's and we have 31/23000 = 0.0013 = 0.13%... Wow, one tenth of one percent. I'm constantly amazed at the fearful crouch people live in nowadays-- fueled by random horror stories they absorb through media. I see stories about car crash fatalities all the time, but i dont tell people to stop driving. I see lots of stories about spousal abuse in the media, but i dont tell people to never get married. The number of FB, offer up, and CL transactions that go bad is infinitesimally small. I think its ridiculous to live in fear of the community you are part of. I prefer to go out and engage with people face to face like a normal human being. When i sell gear, im happy to give my address, set it up in the garage to demo, and talk to the buyer. I dont think i will be donning a kevlar vest, insisting on police parking lot meetups, and inspecting their cash with a counterfeit detection marker. Adopting the worldview of mistrust, suspicion, apprehension, and standoffishness towards others is problematic and only further deteriorates healthy civil engagement.
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What’s your address?

When that’s the first communication you have with a locked profile on Facebook, what do you do? Give the address because chances are it’s cool?
 
Seems these online sales platforms would be better served by maintaining a feedback rating on buyers and sellers - similar to Ebay, Uber etc. (If they don't already)
 
I live in Puyallup WA, North of Mr Pig. Do all of my CL sales in my garage with an offer to demo the item. Have had no negative experiences. Of course, I am 6 foot 4 and weigh in around 240...... :)
 
I’ve never been ripped off, but I stopped giving out my home address after I had a dude come to look at an air compressor I was selling. He spent more time checking out what I had in my garage than looking at the compressor.

Guy gave me the creeps.

Decided right then and there anything I sell was going to be viewed at a public place from then on…
 
SKS said:
Something to chew on. The US is a 23 trillion dollar economy, the fraud you allege is about 31 billion. So, drop nine 0's and we have 31/23000 = 0.0013 = 0.13%... Wow, one tenth of one percent. I'm constantly amazed at the fearful crouch people live in nowadays-- fueled by random horror stories they absorb through media. I see stories about car crash fatalities all the time, but i dont tell people to stop driving. I see lots of stories about spousal abuse in the media, but i dont tell people to never get married. The number of FB, offer up, and CL transactions that go bad is infinitesimally small. I think its ridiculous to live in fear of the community you are part of. I prefer to go out and engage with people face to face like a normal human being. When i sell gear, im happy to give my address, set it up in the garage to demo, and talk to the buyer. I dont think i will be donning a kevlar vest, insisting on police parking lot meetups, and inspecting their cash with a counterfeit detection marker. Adopting the worldview of mistrust, suspicion, apprehension, and standoffishness towards others is problematic and only further deteriorates healthy civil engagement.
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Stats can be used in many different ways to create a realization of reality, this I do know, as for the last part of my career, statistics and the use of them were all important in my field of measurement. But, you do have to appreciate that the rate of scams and fraud are on the rise with the advent of the computer and online purchasing.

I've done a fair bit of research from several sources to check validity on the occurrence of illegal transactions, and the frequency of these are alarming. I've had several friends/neighbours who have experienced some form of fraud, from several age groups.

Your comparisons are extreme and really don't apply to the nature of this discussion.

As well, I have several contacts and some colleagues (cyber-security experts) who have shared that breaches in computer use as well as illegal sales transactions are at an all time high, and increasing each year. As well the scam formats/sites are becoming more sophisticated and effective.


You may hold to a "Pollyanna" POV, however I think it might not reflect what as happening overall. It's not "fear", but "awareness" that should be paramount in your assessment of what's happening.


As per you comments of "home security"...that's another issue to be dealt with, eh? :bigok:

FWIW


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Quadman2 said:
Stats can be used in many different ways to create a realization of reality, this I do know, as for the last part of my career, statistics and the use of them were all important in my field of measurement. But, you do have to appreciate that the rate of scams and fraud are on the rise with the advent of the computer and online purchasing.

I've done a fair bit of research from several sources to check validity on the occurrence of illegal transactions, and the frequency of these are alarming. I've had several friends/neighbours who have experienced some form of fraud, from several age groups.

Your comparisons are extreme and really don't apply to the nature of this discussion.

As well, I have several contacts and some colleagues (cyber-security experts) who have shared that breaches in computer use as well as illegal sales transactions are at an all time high, and increasing each year. As well the scam formats/sites are becoming more sophisticated and effective.


You may hold to a "Pollyanna" POV, however I think it might not reflect what as happening overall. It's not "fear", but "awareness" that should be paramount in your assessment of what's happening.


As per you comments of "home security"...that's another issue to be dealt with, eh? :bigok:

FWIW


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Why the use of derogatory name calling?

FWIW? Not much.
 
Even if you don’t have any reasons for concern regarding someone with criminal intent having your name, phone, address, etc… There are also folks out there that have no respect for other peoples time. That’s reason enough for me not to give out my address to every looky-loo, tire kicker, and time waster that manages to find their way into my inbox. I don’t know if there is a statistic for that or not.
 
I usually go through a couple emails to gauge the interest and a availability of a potential buyer, providing a general description of my location. I give my address the day of the transaction and, post pandemic, try to audition audio items under the carport. Sometimes it is just easier and more conducive to making a sale to demonstrate working condition and quality of audio equipment in the house. It is important for me to let a potential buyer audition an audio item because, when I have been burned on CL deals, it has been due to buying without first trying. Maybe I've been lucky, but this approach has pretty much worked for me. With any transaction you run the risk of no shows, it goes with the territory.
 
Mingo said:
I usually go through a couple emails to gauge the interest and a availability of a potential buyer, providing a general description of my location. I give my address the day of the transaction and, post pandemic, try to audition audio items under the carport. Sometimes it is just easier and more conducive to making a sale to demonstrate working condition and quality of audio equipment in the house. It is important for me to let a potential buyer audition an audio item because, when I have been burned on CL deals, it has been due to buying without first trying. Maybe I've been lucky, but this approach has pretty much worked for me. With any transaction you run the risk of no shows, it goes with the territory.
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Pretty much sums up my approach too.
 
Mingo said:
I usually go through a couple emails to gauge the interest and a availability of a potential buyer, providing a general description of my location. I give my address the day of the transaction and, post pandemic, try to audition audio items under the carport. Sometimes it is just easier and more conducive to making a sale to demonstrate working condition and quality of audio equipment in the house. It is important for me to let a potential buyer audition an audio item because, when I have been burned on CL deals, it has been due to buying without first trying. Maybe I've been lucky, but this approach has pretty much worked for me. With any transaction you run the risk of no shows, it goes with the territory.
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Same for me, with the addition of talking to the potential buyer before providing address or having him/her come over.
 
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