For those who don't know how to drive
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grillebilly
Empty Head
There are lots of folks who are clueless. It never ceases to amaze me the zany antics I see on the road.
33&athird
Turn on & Tune in
I was about to say...how is this not common knowledge?, putting it in Neutral, well, duh...The again, I bet 95% of people only use drive, reverse, and park...heck, I don't normally use first or second (automatic) gears, but I use neutral quite a bit. And turning the engine off...geez...
the funniest part? the dangerous use of the highway as a demonstration...why not use a neighborhood or rural area?, same point, but much safer. pulling over on the highway isn't terrible per se', but right on a incoming lane?...
Brian
An Old Geezer
I learned to do this with my Fiat Strada. The accererator cable would fail every 6 months or so and the default position was wide open. I always carried a spare and it took about 5 minutes and a slotted screwdriver to replace.
They sort of failed to mention that when you kill the engine those power brakes also will be a might harder to step on. I wonder what happens if you kill the engine and have one of the drive by wire steering systems. Anyone know?
They sort of failed to mention that when you kill the engine those power brakes also will be a might harder to step on. I wonder what happens if you kill the engine and have one of the drive by wire steering systems. Anyone know?
Cleve
Super Member
Jeez, couldn't CNN have demonstrated this on a side road or country road, rather than a heavily traveled expressway? Made me nervous to see the guy turning off the ignition - he could have accidently turned it far enough to lock the steering column - LOL.
That would have made for a nice headline.
That would have made for a nice headline.
Goodwill_HiFi
Super Member
There is no such thing in a production automobile. The closest thing is electric power steering, which assists the driver just like hydraulic power steering does. If it goes out it's not any different than loosing the hydraulic system in any other car. I had a 04 Malibu that would loose the electric power steering. It was a recall due to a bad sensor. I think it only applied to the early production 04's. Once the sensor was replaced it was fine. I actually delayed getting my car in since it didn't happen too often at first. I'd just shut the car off while rolling, shift into neutral, and restart and I'd have the power assist back.
VinylHanger
Navigaret ex ironia
This is what I was thinking. Or if you are in traffic and the car keeps going, you've already ran into the guy in front of you. It may sound like a simple thing, but in heavy traffic where you are trying to maneuver it isn't such a simple thing to do on a moments notice. It would probasbly take a second or more to even realize it is happening.
Radfordman
Super Member
I would think that the brake servo would not work with engine off and that would necessitate pressing very much harder on the brake pedal. That can be frightening.
merrylander
AK Member
Of course if they had programmed the computer to give the brake system preference over acceleration like every other manufacturer it would not be a problem.
whoaru99
Epic Member
I've seen the comments about brake preference over throttle a couple of different times now. Anyone know how the computer decides when the brake is more important than the throttle? At first pass, it would seem "always" is the right answer, but I dunno for sure if that is the logic involved.
Just got a new Dodge truck that has electronic throttle/pedal, I may have to do an experiment to see what happens when you press the brake with your foot still on the gas.
Just got a new Dodge truck that has electronic throttle/pedal, I may have to do an experiment to see what happens when you press the brake with your foot still on the gas.
merrylander
AK Member
The computer is programmed to give priority to the brake pedal when both brake and accelerator are depressed simultaneously.
similost
Rockin and Rollin....
I was really surprised when I saw the news, and they said Toyota was telling people to switch off the ignition..
I figure if someone is too stupid to figure out how to stop a car with a run away engine, then they are to stupid to know how to turn it off and not lock the steering..
We always enjoyed the emergency brake at about 40mph... makes for some crazy fun spins..
rickr15
Super Member
OK, if the throttle is stuck wide open, and you shift into neutral, there's a good chance you blow up the engine, isn't there? Just a thought. You don't have to worry about turning off the ignition if that happens.
Might be interesting to watch someone in a panic try and hit neutral, miss and go right to park at 65 mph. Which will probably strip the parking brake and keep right on going. I saw someone do this with a C4 made a hell of a racket. And did not stop.
At least they won't have to worry about the driveshaft coming through the floor if they happend to put it in park. Guess that's called job security for the Toyota techs when they have to start replacing transmissions, cv axles, etc from this little **** up.
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