"Grunge is Why Rock 'N' Roll Music is on Life Support, if not Dead."...hmmm

painttoad said:
dio era black sabbath kicks the crap out of ozzy era black sabbath, not to say that i don't like the former. heaven & hell and mob rules are 2 of the earliest recordings i remember owning.
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I got to see the Heaven and Hell tour back around '07-'08 with RJD, Vinny, Geezer and Tony. Hands down one of the best live shows I've ever seen....and I've seen a whole damn bunch.
 
60's = 75 or so great rock bands were started over half of which were exceptional
70s = 100 or so good rock bands were started about 40 were exceptional
80s = 40 or so good rock bands were started about half were exceptional
90s = 40 or so great rock bands were started about half were exceptional
00s = 15 or so great rock bands were started about half were exceptional
10s = 10 or so just good rock bands were started 2 or 3 were exceptional
20s = I bet if you asked 100 random people to name a really great rock and roll band from the last 3 years you would get mostly blank stares. Sure they are out there but most people are not going to go through the hassel of listening to 700,000 bands on bandcamp to find them.

I blame the record company executives not the new musicians. Music would benefit if all current music executives retired, the drivel they actively promote these days is about as deep as driveway puddles. Started going downhill when clear channel and i heart brought up all the radio stations and local bands lost their access to airplay on local stations. Sad but true. Grunge bands started getting airplay on local radio and it grew from there, today they would struggle to find an outlet.

Love this album but heaven forbid a grunge band put some melody in their songs so most of their angry fans hated it. Guitar on this one proves they listened to and liked Pink Floyd Animals.

 
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tomlinmgt said:
Same here. As a young drummer, I cut my teeth on my instrument learning anything and everything by whoever was gracing the pages of Circus and Hit Parader from '84-86. Now, the only ones from that scene that I listen to consistently and regularly are Dio (first two releases and all the Heave and Hell era Sabbath) and, well, I guess that's about it. Lol. By the late 80's (my late teens) I was deeply immersed in the Beatles, and in college (when grunge broke) it was Steely Dan, Little Feat, Allman Brothers, all the hard rock pioneers (Zeppelin, Hendrix, Cream The Who, etc), Grateful Dead and all the fusion jazz I could get my hands on....and I'm still listening to all that stuff now in addition to new stuff that's come along since. It's fun to revisit some of the hair band stuff (was just listening to Whitesnake recently), but it's mostly just to take a walk down memory lane.
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It's great that you mention the Beatles, This song in particular had the hard edge I really need to hear in music. A shame this song's legacy was forever tainted by that psychopath Charlie Manson & his followers, this being my first "ear opener" to the fact that I thrive on hard rock (VS the lovey dovey sappy sweet stuff, which unfortunately prevailed during those times)....

 
petes'picks said:
60's = 75 or so great rock bands were started over half of which were exceptional
70s = 100 or so good rock bands were started about 40 were exceptional
80s = 40 or so good rock bands were started about half were exceptional
90s = 40 or so great rock bands were started about half were exceptional
00s = 15 or so great rock bands were started about half were exceptional
10s = 10 or so just good rock bands were started 2 or 3 were exceptional
20s = I bet if you asked 100 random people to name a really great new rock and roll band from the last 3 years you would get mostly confused looks. Sure they are out there but most people are not going to go through the hassel of listening to 700,000 bands on bandcamp to find them.

I blame the record company executives not the new musicians. Music would benefit if all current music executives retired, the drivel they spend promoting the most these days is about as deep as driveway puddles. Started going downhill when clear channel and i heart brought up all the radio stations and local bands lost their access to airplay on local stations. Sad but true. Grunge bands started getting airplay on local radio and it grew from there, today they would struggle to find an outlet.

Love this album but heaven forbid a grunge band put some melody in their songs so most of their angry fans hated it. Guitar on this one proves they listened to and liked Pink Floyd Animals.

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There is a reason that is my "I hate Grunge, no talent" recombination Album.
 
The Grunge got side tracked, some new head bangin first. Edit: bunch of High Schoolers with an RSD release.
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petes'picks said:
60's = 75 or so great rock bands were started over half of w
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Nope. You list the number as started when it couldn't be further from the truth. Started in 2020s is in the 10s of thousands. Same in the 60s - 70s. Signed to major lables is probably static throughout the decades. Thank God for independent artists is all I have to say. No time for popular these days.
 
As mentioned by a couple of posters before, the real downfall is the fault of the industry. Once record companies were bought by large corporations, profit became the main goal. Allowing a new group to develop over a number of albums is gone for the most part. If the hits don't come quick, adios. All the better if an artist doesn't actually write their own music, less royalties to pay. Milk it for all they're worth, move on to the next big thing, rinse and repeat.
 
painttoad said:
i've still got the vhs of that . i actually converted it to dvd before it was available on dvd. i waited in line to buy mad season cd the day it came out.
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I have been looking for a copy of it. I finally just bought it in my Amazon Prime video library.
 
AIC, MTV Unplugged is another must watch performance for the "hate Grunge" crowd. Many converts watching that in my living room.
 
grillebilly said:
Genres rise and fall in popularity. Grunge is no different.
Does popularity define the importance of genres? I guess it has to, sadly.
One of my all-time favorite guitarists is Bob Mould, nicknamed The Godfather of Grunge, but I can’t name a single grudge band I would buy a record of. So there’s a lot of gray area when defining music.
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I'm not much of music genre expert but I am a huge fan of Bob Mould. Also a fan of Husker Du and Sugar his other bands. I've never heard him described as the Godfather of Grunge but I rarely read anything about the artists I enjoy. I focus on listening! He is a guitar god around here (my basement) and sure he may have inspired may other artists. I just don't hear grunge in his playing.
 
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