Vinyl infant
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Thanks so much! Gonna check me out!
Help! I’m picking out my first speakers!
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Vinyl infant
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These look nice! Gonna do some more research on them. Thanks!
Tiver
Enjoy the music
Primarily a Rotel RM1080 200wpc. I also have a Yamaha CA-1010 85wpc integrated.
I love the Yamaha, but I feel it can run out of steam before the speakers whereas the Rotel doesn't. I have run both amps through ADS L810 as well with very good results. I have a decent vinyl front end as well as digital. the best sound is always from the best mastering and there are definitely recordings that are disappointing,
My room is about 21x23 with 10' ceilings. Carpeted floor and plenty of space to put speakers a few of feet in front of the wall and 4 or 5 feet in from the side walls. I have a couple other pairs of ADS towers as well. I am a fan of their products.
I love the Yamaha, but I feel it can run out of steam before the speakers whereas the Rotel doesn't. I have run both amps through ADS L810 as well with very good results. I have a decent vinyl front end as well as digital. the best sound is always from the best mastering and there are definitely recordings that are disappointing,
My room is about 21x23 with 10' ceilings. Carpeted floor and plenty of space to put speakers a few of feet in front of the wall and 4 or 5 feet in from the side walls. I have a couple other pairs of ADS towers as well. I am a fan of their products.
Route 66
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I started with a pair of Advents in the 70s and was very pleased with them. I see that they have a pair up for sale in L.A.. You might want to check those out.
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ele/d/los-angeles-vintage-1970s-advent-u4-2/7103148093.html
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ele/d/los-angeles-vintage-1970s-advent-u4-2/7103148093.html
Vinyl infant
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These look like a great option for the size I’m looking for. What amp did you or would you pair with them?
David_NC
Super Member
I've been trying to get another member / audio buddy to get them so I can listen, but he's not falling for it! He's got L1290's already. If you listen to them, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts. There's a pair on OfferUp that are slightly cheaper, but I believe they're in OC.
JoeESP9
ESL's & tubes since 83
Since they haven't been mentioned and I'm a long time Magnepan owner I recommend their LRS's. They are $650 a pair directly from Magnepan. You can return them for a full refund before 30 days. Be warned, Magnepan has sold a lot of their larger speakers based on the deal offered for LRS's or MMG's. The deal is, if you move up to a larger pair of Maggies within a year they will apply the full purchase price of the LRS's on a trade-in to any larger Magnepan speaker.
If you have the space to position them properly they may be all the speaker you need. FWIW: I think they need a subwoofer. They are actually the Magnepan equivalent of a small bookshelf speaker. But then, IMO most bookshelf/stand mount speakers need a subwoofer.
If you have the space to position them properly they may be all the speaker you need. FWIW: I think they need a subwoofer. They are actually the Magnepan equivalent of a small bookshelf speaker. But then, IMO most bookshelf/stand mount speakers need a subwoofer.
Route 66
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That's a really tough question. It depends on you budget but keep in mind that you're more likely to damage a pair of speakers by feeding them too little power than to be using a higher power amp than you think you need.
There is a pair of KEF 105.2's in Studio City but, based on your last post, they may be a little larger than you're looking for. They would definitely fill your room with enough quality sound though. If they are close to you, go give them a listen. I think you will be impressed. If you like the sound but not the size, see the following.
Also a pair of KEF 104/2's in Newport Beach, at slightly above your limit. They look to be in excellent condition so the price is not out of line. Many vintage KEF fans here. (I own 2 pair of the 104/2's
) They do need good, quality power to sound their best though. I'm driving mine with a Pioneer SX-1010 using a Schiit preamp.
I'm also an ADS fan, and have 2 pair of the bookshelf's. I haven't heard any of the larger models, but greatly prefer the Kef's to my L710's. (And the L710 is a great speaker!) Got Little Feat-Waiting for Columbus rockin' as I type.
As was mentioned, listen to as many as you can.
Good luck and have fun.
Also a pair of KEF 104/2's in Newport Beach, at slightly above your limit. They look to be in excellent condition so the price is not out of line. Many vintage KEF fans here. (I own 2 pair of the 104/2's
) They do need good, quality power to sound their best though. I'm driving mine with a Pioneer SX-1010 using a Schiit preamp. I'm also an ADS fan, and have 2 pair of the bookshelf's. I haven't heard any of the larger models, but greatly prefer the Kef's to my L710's. (And the L710 is a great speaker!) Got Little Feat-Waiting for Columbus rockin' as I type.
As was mentioned, listen to as many as you can.
Good luck and have fun.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
This seems to me to indicate some fairly large speakers and I don't know that the Magnepan LRS would give you the sound power you might need. I use larger Magnepan speakers and am happy with slightly mellower rock. Adding a sub gives them more power.
The recommendation for a pair of Advents is really only half a recommendation as I believe in your room, two pair, top pair inverted, each stack 10" off the ground would be a nice powerful speaker system that could well with 100-150watt amps that are comfortable driving a 4 ohm load.
Big ADS will play, of course, Klipsch large speakers will work but can exceed the price easily and you need to know horn sound and what it brings to the party. Some don't care for it or suffer listening fatigue while enjoying their tunes. I don't understand the acceptance of suffering listening fatigue for the sake of certain speaker listening. I'm sure there are some JBLs in the LA area that would be fine, too but maybe spendy as they seem to have a name brand tax applied to them. They made a lot of different speakers, chose carefully.
Pyrrho
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In normal times, I would recommend that you first go to audio shops and listen to a wide variety of speakers in your price range, as many as you can stand to listen to, of as many types you can find (e.g., horns, domes, ribbons, whatever). That way you have some idea of the kinds of things you like, and the kinds of things you don't like. To keep yourself from making a rash decision, you can leave your money and credit cards at home; you want to just listen to things, at different stores. Tell the salespeople up front that you are just listening that day, not buying. Then think about what you like and what you don't like. You will also have a good idea of what you can get new, which can help save you from paying too much for an old speaker, if you do end up going with a vintage speaker.
If you can, you will want to take music with you with which you are familiar; taking a CDR of what you like is a good idea (you don't want any confusion about who owns the disc when you leave), or you can do a different format if you prefer.
If you can, you will want to take music with you with which you are familiar; taking a CDR of what you like is a good idea (you don't want any confusion about who owns the disc when you leave), or you can do a different format if you prefer.
Vinyl infant
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I think I may have over-spoke in my original post. I'm not looking for a huge set of speakers. Probably not looking for anything bigger than the size of the ADS l710
Vinyl infant
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That's a very good idea. Right now if riots break out in LA I might be able to get a new pair of speakers from a stereo store anyway lmao.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Without the speaker size limitation, I was addressing this statement:
Fairly large room, needs bass response and wants to play it loud. One 710 per side might do that, I don't know as I haven't had my 710s in the main rig in a while and my room is a bit smaller but with good power maybe they will fill the room to a loud volume with Steve Miller. They are reasonably sensitive and play loud with lower power compared to others but since you are going to try to buy speakers first get the proper amp will make the volume available without damaging the speakers it they are designed to fill that size room. The difference between single and double advents is remarkable but I understands the desire to keep your selection to a single bookshelf or other speaker.
Fairly large room, needs bass response and wants to play it loud. One 710 per side might do that, I don't know as I haven't had my 710s in the main rig in a while and my room is a bit smaller but with good power maybe they will fill the room to a loud volume with Steve Miller. They are reasonably sensitive and play loud with lower power compared to others but since you are going to try to buy speakers first get the proper amp will make the volume available without damaging the speakers it they are designed to fill that size room. The difference between single and double advents is remarkable but I understands the desire to keep your selection to a single bookshelf or other speaker.
Vinyl infant
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Thanks man! This is some solid advice. Those L710's are def in my budget and size range.There is a pair of KEF 105.2's in Studio City but, based on your last post, they may be a little larger than you're looking for. They would definitely fill your room with enough quality sound though. If they are close to you, go give them a listen. I think you will be impressed. If you like the sound but not the size, see the following.
Also a pair of KEF 104/2's in Newport Beach, at slightly above your limit. They look to be in excellent condition so the price is not out of line. Many vintage KEF fans here. (I own 2 pair of the 104/2's
I'm also an ADS fan, and have 2 pair of the bookshelf's. I haven't heard any of the larger models, but greatly prefer the Kef's to my L710's. (And the L710 is a great speaker!) Got Little Feat-Waiting for Columbus rockin' as I type.
As was mentioned, listen to as many as you can.
Good luck and have fun.
Vinyl infant
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those 710's are looking better and better. What wattage amp are you gonna need for speakers that size?
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Excellent sounding speakers! However, they do need to be on stands to get the best out of them. When you add the stands, you're now at the height of the 104/2's. The KEF's are much deeper than the ADS (16.5" vs 10") but about 1" narrower.
On the plus side (for the 710's), they were built with quality crossover components (and usually rubber surrounds) so you shouldn't have to ever do anything with them. Much easier to move around than the KEF's too. Those puppies are heavy!
Vinyl infant
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Where do you buy stands for them?Excellent sounding speakers! However, they do need to be on stands to get the best out of them. When you add the stands, you're now at the height of the 104/2's. The KEF's are much deeper than the ADS (16.5" vs 10") but about 1" narrower.
On the plus side (for the 710's), they were built with quality crossover components (and usually rubber surrounds) so you shouldn't have to ever do anything with them. Much easier to move around than the KEF's too. Those puppies are heavy!
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Power, get at least 100 watts don't want to be clipping when you be rocking.