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I finally get speaker placement

Frequently, placing bookshelf speakers on their stands and positioned for the best soundstage the bass may seem to be deficient. If this is so consider a "good" subwoofer.
 
quiet said:
What you have sounds like a good place to work with. Surely much better than many of us have. Are those speakers going to fill it up?
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I moved here about four months ago, and just got my listening space set up about two months ago. I've been having fun switching in and out my different amps, receivers and speakers in different combinations. I haven't had a problems filling the space so far. But of course if I were to do something like work in the basement instead of sitting in my listening spot, it might be a issue - but why risk it?:beatnik:
 
JoeESP9 said:
Try the link below for help/advice on speaker positioning.
http://www.cardas.com/room_setup_main.php
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+1

If you have the space, I've found a great improvement using these guides. My room is small and U-shaped. Roughly 11' x 14' with an open wall behind the listener.

My KEF 104/2 are 26" from the side walls and 48" from the rear wall (measured to the center of the baffle). Still short of the Cardas guides, but much better than having the speakers in the corners or near the rear wall.

Six feet between speaker centerlines and a little over six feet to the listening position. Speakers with moderate toe-in.

Soundstage and channel separation are much better. With a good recording, sound appears to come from behind, and from the side the listener, not just from the front.
 
A laser pen light is handy if you have speakers that are angled up or down.
Use it to make sure the tilt angle is the same for both speakers.
 
Old Guy8 said:
I got some Maggies Wednesday. Been working on placement since. Pickiest speaker for location, I ever owned. Radiating front and back, whole area behind/around them seems to become part of the speaker.
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Yup! but once you get them the way 'you' like them. they're keepers. I run my tweeters outside on my 1.6 in dj headphone mode (no triangle, but a straight line from ear to ear, the speakers point in and are parallel to the side walls, I sit in the middle)

And I run my 2.5R with the tweeters to the inside, in the classic 'pearsons' rule of thirds triangle. 2' from the rear(front) wall and 2' from the side walls
 
jazzmans said:
in the classic 'pearsons' rule of thirds triangle. 2' from the rear(front) wall and 2' from the side walls
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Your position may work very well, but I think you misunderstand Harry's concept. It relates to thirds of the room dimensions to minimize bass modes and optimize apparent stage width.

Longitudinally, speakers are placed one third the length of the room from the front wall. Your listening position is at the other third as bass response tends to be poor in the center of rooms. Laterally, speaker centers are placed at thirds of room width - although he tended to spread them a bit further than the math suggests.

Empirically, I find the most linear measured bass in the Shroeder frequencies in my 26' long room is with speakers out just over 8' from front wall which works out pretty closely.
 
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Yes, apparently, the speakers should not be the same distance from the front wall as they are from the side walls.
I had mine at equidistance at one point, then I read some info on placement, and moved them farther from the side walls, and the sound stage greatly improved.

Dave
 
If dealing with larger bookshelf speakers, say two cubic foot. I find having stand choices can help to adjust speaker sound. Being able to try angled stands at lower height vs taller flat top stands gives options. And still aim tweeters at ears either way, if distance away allows. If you have room to store spare stands.
 
Old Guy8 said:
If dealing with larger bookshelf speakers, say two cubic foot. I find having stand choices can help to adjust speaker sound. Being able to try angled stands at lower height vs taller flat top stands gives options. And still aim tweeters at ears either way, if distance away allows.
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Agreed

Old Guy8 said:
If you have room to store spare stands.
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Just for the record, I have to disagree that there should be a limit to the amount of hi-fi gear I collect, just because I don't have room. :)
 
Jim H B said:
Agreed



Just for the record, I have to disagree that there should be a limit to the amount of hi-fi gear I collect, just because I don't have room. :)
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Trouble Finding the Sweet Spot ?
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depending on your listening distance from the rear wall (behind you), you can end up with Schroedinger's Bass. i have run into that.
 
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