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I hate turntables

I buy rega turntables. They seem to be built for people that don't like to work on or tweak turntables. I've never had a problem. If I ever do the guy at audio place I shop knows what he's doing. The vintage table I have right now, a Pioneer PL-530 was completely rebuilt and just like brand new. So far hasn't caused me any problems. Yes I probably paid a little too much for it but then again I've had no headaches so probably worth it.
 
guitarman50 said:
I buy rega turntables. They seem to be built for people that don't like to work on or tweak turntables. I've never had a problem. If I ever do the guy at audio place I shop knows what he's doing. The vintage table I have right now, a Pioneer PL-530 was completely rebuilt and just like brand new. So far hasn't caused me any problems. Yes I probably paid a little too much for it but then again I've had no headaches so probably worth it.
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Sounds like the reliability and functionality was worth it for you. So why do you say you paid too much? When you get into vintage, the playing field starts to level as you look at restored gear. Regardless of how cheap it was to buy, once you get it restored by a talented tech, the total costs are very close.

All my keeper gear has been restored. It wasn’t cheap, but well worth it, and still much cheaper than equivalent sound quality bought new. And it was an iterative process in terms of expense, so I could do it gradually as funds were available. Finally, and most importantly, I love using it and seeing it.
 
There's something a bit sterile about modern music listening. I can stream, rip, and flip cds and get great sounding music. There's still something missing in the experience that I don't get as opposed to sitting in front of my turntable. It just feels better when I get a great record and listen and experience the moment.
 
I kinda hate turntables too. I did a great job of ignoring them for the better part of the last 3 decades but when I finally got one I found out that I really like records and the fiddly nature of vinyl playback in general so now I've got something else to spend money on. What's worse is that we're still on the upswing of the vinyl revival (so to speak) so getting in now is probably the worst time I could have picked to do so.
Darn things being fun and sounding nice. I blame this all on my friend Mike giving me a Marantz 6100 and a crate full of vinyl in return for helping him out with his car.
 
I love turntables. I especially love fixing turntables. Every time I run into a frustrating one, I realize it's usually something I failed to take into account that was causing my frustration and file the tidbit away for next time.

On second thought, I hate fixing most Garrards and B&Os. Everything else is fine by me.
 
bangsezmax said:
I love turntables. I especially love fixing turntables. Every time I run into a frustrating one, I realize it's usually something I failed to take into account that was causing my frustration and file the tidbit away for next time.

On second thought, I hate fixing most Garrards and B&Os. Everything else is fine by me.
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Slightly off topic, but related, what are the common failure of the 4002?
 
Yea yea, its all good. I'm going to find my groove in vinyl yet.
Like I said.. It was just a rant. I'm not trying to urinate anyone off.
Some of you guys have some killer setups, and I'm sure they sound amazing. I have just never found my mojo with turntables like I have the rest of the gear. And I'm sure thats because of the crappy tables I have had.

The drive unit is out of the base for the JVC QL-5. I went to a local home improvement store and looked over the wood selection and a saw. Just gonna build my own plinth. I'll start a thread on it so I can just focus on it.
 
Old-School said:
And I'm sure thats because of the crappy tables I have had.
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Well, you have an SL-Q2 which is an excellent and underrated deck. So you know that nice, trouble free decks are out there.
DCH said:
One man's tedious hair-pulling BS is another man's three-dimensional puzzle.
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This is a great explanation of the what it's like to fix turntables once you have some confidence about your work. It can be quite demoralizing at first. But like they say about anything you want to do well, first you have to spend some time doing it badly.
 
Seems to be five pages on this,if you hate turntables don't use one.There are other options available.
Moving on.
 
I hate CD's.
Sure, they sound pretty good in the right cd player, but I cross my fingers every moment that they won't decide to skip.
My records NEVER skip. ever. (unless you're doing the Russian Sabre Dance on the wood floor)
 
bangsezmax said:
The motor and the drive circuitry. Hope that helps. ;)
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Thanks! I have a parts unit, so I’ll take a look at trying the spares. The table is running too slow on my keeper unit. I actually have two spare keeper tables and the 4002 is one of them. I absolutely love watching it in action! It is so elegant and smooth when everything is working, and it’s not too hard to open up.

Edit: I wanted to say something else earlier, but forgot it. I’ll say it here and now. I think my dissatisfaction with Records back in the mid 80s was because I didn’t have enough power and clarity for the music I liked. After two years of being back in the hobby, I had found it. My largest improvement was moving to higher end separates and integrated amps, but most importantly, the preamp. Back in the day, I had a Marantz 1530 with legacy speakers and a Yamaha p-350 Turntable with a Stanton cartridge. I upgraded eventually to a NAD 7240 PE, and suddenly, my records sounded clean and clear. Same turntable and cartridge but different speakers. It was that big of a difference! Since getting back into it, I have bought all the gear I used to have except for the table and cartridge. I found it buried in a box under the stairs a couple of years ago. Even the NAD can’t compare to what I use regularly now. I have the exact same model of legacy speakers right now and they actually sound pretty good. But the amp and preamp is way better than what I had then. And, at a fraction of the cost! So if you are going to get into vinyl, make sure you have a good preamp and amp, and the rest will follow.
 
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