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I think I have something blocking my spindle hole (Elac 10h)

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I had fun writing that title, anyway I got an Elac 10h recently- I'm totally new to turn tables.

I got a stacking spindle on ebay which said it came from a Miracord 46. I only had the single play spindle.

When I inserted the stacking spindle it was super wobbly and did nothing when I stacked records and tried to play them. Now I initially thought my single play spindle was also kind of wobbly but assumed that was normal because it still played records. Although, even when the single play is inserted right-side up it replays forever. I read this was a common problem and I had to fiddle with some clip or something, but maybe its because of an obstruction?

I pulled off the platter and took some pictures. Does this look right? Pics I see online seem to show the spindle coming out the bottom but I don't see that and there is some white plastic thing in there. Inserted does it look like its coming up too high? The pic of the underside is with the spindle inserted. I also took a pic of the hole, you can see the plastic looking thing.

spindle.jpginserted.jpegunderside.jpeginside spindle hole.jpeg
 
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Where is a pic of the stacking spindle?
On Miracords, turning the single play spindle upside down does make it replay indefinitely.
Who said the 46 stacker works on a 10?
 
I'm saying right side up it plays indefinitely.

Asked here: https://audiokarma.org/forums/index...-stacking-spindles-from-the-same-era.1066747/

It looks identical to the ones I see for the 10h. The little pokey thing seems to have nothing to go into which I think is why its so wobbly. I also think the single play spindle is suppose to come out the bottom too? Otherwise how do the mechanisms like catch and interact with it?
stacking spindle.jpeg

And photos I see around the web seem to show the spindle going in deeper and coming out on the bottom


 
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ELAC 10, 40, 45, 50 spindles

yes, they are supposed sit below the platter spindle and rest on the lever

elac 10 spindles.JPG
 
Any idea what the white thing could be and how I can get it out of there? The table is screwed into my whole stereo cabinet I'd like to not have to remove it. Can I just poke it through from the bottom?

I'm wondering if it is a broken piece or something. When I compare my table underside to those on the web it seems to have all the same stuff in there though.
 
HA! I poked it out of there. Clearly it seems to be the top to what was probably the original changer spindle.
the blockage.jpeg

They probably put the changer in upside down, got that plastic piece stuck and threw out the changer and kept the single play one.
 
Everything does! Just tested, single play stops when right side up and the changer spindle works as it should as well.

I wonder how long previous owners had it stuck in there and they just lived with it. Unrelated issue, but when I first got the cabinet (I think its probably from around 63) the left channel had low volume and the balance was turned more to the left- I'm assuming to compensate. One of the receiver's 4 power tubes was totally blown and the other three were melted. After replacing them both channels are solid. It crazy the condition all the equipment is in considering probably zero maintenance for 60 years.
 
The manual says up to 10 max but I just need to keep the stack under that black part of the top of the spindle right? Mine doesn't have that red marker on it.

It's probably just my perception but I got one of those acrylic mats and I _feel_ like it makes it sound a little better (probably just my imagination). I'm thinking I could still use it in conjunction with the stacking spindle with less records so it doesn't get too high for the tone arm.
 
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