alteclipsch
Super Member
And therein lies the point. It's not about the experience, it's about hearing it WITHOUT the collateral experience. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just how society continues to evolve.
It's not just stereos that the kids don't want.
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And therein lies the point. It's not about the experience, it's about hearing it WITHOUT the collateral experience. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just how society continues to evolve.
One interesting thing about new vehicles in our isolated town is that they are becoming a real problem when something does go wrong. The couple of mechanics we have here don't have the credentials to work on them, or the software, and without software and passwords (which can change weekly) these cars cannot be diagnosed or worked on locally. Our option then is to have them towed out to the ferry terminal, loaded into the ferry and another tow truck at the other end to offload and tow to the dealer. The owner usually must accompany their car, stay in a hotel etc. By the time you get your car back here fixed it could cost you well over a thousand bucks just for that.
What many people here are figuring out that owning new cars here is a big gamble if something goes wrong. This is true for many that are "out there" in remote areas of the world. Of course for 99% of the people, this is of no concern but here, having a car that is old enough that the local mechanics can work on them is turning pout to be a virtue.
What many people here are figuring out that owning new cars here is a big gamble if something goes wrong. This is true for many that are "out there" in remote areas of the world. Of course for 99% of the people, this is of no concern but here, having a car that is old enough that the local mechanics can work on them is turning pout to be a virtue.
c5corvette
Well-Known Member
Well, since we are discussing new vehicle repair, I'll share this. 2016 Corvette Stingray. The HUD assembly failed, very rare failure, but PIA job to replace! Something you would not attempt at home.
Except that the millennials are a big driver of the vinyl revival.
Not enough to bring it back to where it was in its heyday. That would be something.
A "Fad" does not translate to anything lasting as far as I am concerned. And as far as I am concerned its a "Fad"
Mind you we can debate this and be both right over and over. There is no absolute right or wrong answer.
Frannie
If it's a fad, it's one long-running fad.
Them kids aint playing them records. And if they are on those Crosley things its just a matter of time.
<kidding sorta>
Frannie
The industrial revolution may have brought about lower quality things but on the other hand it also allowed people who didn't have things at all to have them. Better to have low quality furniture than no furniture at all, and no or very little furniture wasn't an uncommon situation for the common people. The same goes for clothing and many other things.
Sandy G
Retired Member
Perzacly ! What I'd REALLY love to have is Major's car-it is still around, but has been customized. It started out as either a 1938, 39, or 1940 Cadillac V-16 (Series 90) or series 75-(Flathead V-8} The cars were identical, save for the motor. They were the LAST of the big multi-cylinder Cads. The Sixteens offered almost nothing over their V-8 siblings by then, except bragging rights. They weren't especially powerful, what THEIR raison d'etre was silence & smoothness. I'm thinking it must have been originally a Sixteen, because in the back of my feeble little mind, I seem to remember that it had a quote/unquote "Funky " motor. I'm thinking sometime around 1960, it received a Pontiac mill. the boy who owns it now, has no interest in restoring it to its former glory. I've tried & tried to tell him how incredibly Rare it is, but no soap. It belonged to the local VFW for years & years, basically served as a pit stop to try out some compliant-Hopefully, anyhow- woman, & start/end up one's evening of Pulchritude....
DrumminDaddy
Hit it, Baby !!
'Round here it's an inevitable capitulation to rust. The brine they put on the winter roads is eating my truck alive. Mechanically it's still good at 14 years old and nearly 200k on the odometer. 50 years ago the cylinders and piston rings would be long wore out. In terms of vehicles, I fall in the new is better camp. But everything becomes obsolete eventually. You're in the minority of people willing and able to keep your old truck on the road. That's a good thing, but most people don't have the desire. Just like the vintage audio pieces we dig. Your in a sweet spot in time because you can still get points, condensers, distributor caps etc. Eventually, it will become economically undesirable for manufacturers to produce these parts and little by little they'll phase out and become harder to find and more expensive. Like the main caps for the KA-9100 I'm rebuilding that cost around $100 bucks. It becomes a labor of love.
It's a cool truck BTW.
Sandy G
Retired Member
Another thing that REALLY gripes Mein Butox is the shower control. There is NO reason it needs to bet THAT damn "touchy) I've fooled w/it, & fooled w/it, & all I manage to do is make myself even MADDER than I was B4. And to all of our "Friends of the Earth types-Hope you lot are happy. Back in the day, I could have a VERY nice supper, then adjourn to The Reading Room to peruse the newest tabloid, VERY VERY rarely did one ever have to Flush the Loo more than once.
Ronald1973
8-trackin', Hank, Sr. man
I grant you that my house is approaching 50 and could use a new septic system anyway, but since being forced to switch to a low flow toilet (my middle son couldn't get a new seat on the original toilet, so he tried using a hammer! Oops!), things just don't go through as smoothly. It seems I'm constantly having to either pour hot water down the toilet to get things "moving" on to the septic tank at the other end of the house, or I'm having to use something to unstop it when things get compacted!
Fortunately it turns out that the salt mixture that they spray on the roads everywhere else is too expensive to ship in here so just plain sand goes down. This truck has probably never seen salt on the road as where it came from in the Alaskan interior it was never worthwhile to put salt on the roads as it was too cold for it to be effective. We do live near salt water, but the canals (fjords) are quite narrow and with lots of rivers flowing into it, the water is brackish so not really much salt in the air.'Round here it's an inevitable capitulation to rust. The brine they put on the winter roads is eating my truck alive. Mechanically it's still good at 14 years old and nearly 200k on the odometer. 50 years ago the cylinders and piston rings would be long wore out. In terms of vehicles, I fall in the new is better camp. But everything becomes obsolete eventually. You're in the minority of people willing and able to keep your old truck on the road. That's a good thing, but most people don't have the desire. Just like the vintage audio pieces we dig. Your in a sweet spot in time because you can still get points, condensers, distributor caps etc. Eventually, it will become economically undesirable for manufacturers to produce these parts and little by little they'll phase out and become harder to find and more expensive. Like the main caps for the KA-9100 I'm rebuilding that cost around $100 bucks. It becomes a labor of love.
It's a cool truck BTW.
Yes everything will be obsolete at some point. With today's cars, that comes up sooner is all, even though the tolerances are tight and the designs improved with better metals, and lubricants, they will need unobtanium parts much sooner in all likelihood.
DrumminDaddy
Hit it, Baby !!
Sandy G
Retired Member
'll never forget the day JFK got shot. ABSOLUTELY gorgeous, it was that "Chrome Blue" the sky only gets in the fall. Not so cold, either. They gave us l'il shavers Milk, we finished that , went back to our class room. Seems like we prayed for him, & I think they let us go home early that day. Things were VERY weird, all the adults were acting weirder than usual. Of course, we watched everything on the TV, Precious little in color, & it really showed up all the deficiencies of the B/W cameras. The Eternal Flame washed out its picture, & the 1964 Pontiac ambulance that they took him from Andrews AFB to the White House wasn't 10 feet wide, like it looked like it was.
DaveVoorhis
Addicted Member
Here in civilisation, they've got temperature-controlled shower mixers. E.g. https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/cruze-slimline-round-top-outlet-thermostatic-bar-valve-chrome Set once and forget. You can flush multiple toilets at once, leave the dishwasher and washing machine running, etc., and not even notice a change in temperature.
bhunter
The Spherical Cow
I've always found the choice of vehicle in the Third World—or for PC folks Developing—Countries, to be an excellent indicator of reliable and repairable vehicles under less than ideal conditions.
I used to drive a 1965 on my grandfather's ranch. We also had three or four 1T 1965-66's with steel flatbeds and stakes. I remember getting "free" firewood from the mountains with the stakebeds. BTW, your 1965 looks great.
[QUOTE="bhunter, post: 10622312, member: 72359"]I've always found the choice of vehicle in the Third World—or for PC folks Developing—Countries, to be an excellent indicator of reliable and repairable vehicles under less than ideal conditions.
I used to drive a 1965 on my grandfather's ranch. We also had three or four 1T 1965-66's with steel flatbeds and stakes. I remember getting "free" firewood from the mountains with the stakebeds. BTW, your 1965 looks great.[/QUOTE]
I have a 1993 Toyota Hilux 4WD with the 22RE engine.
I'm ready for the Zombies!
I used to drive a 1965 on my grandfather's ranch. We also had three or four 1T 1965-66's with steel flatbeds and stakes. I remember getting "free" firewood from the mountains with the stakebeds. BTW, your 1965 looks great.[/QUOTE]
I have a 1993 Toyota Hilux 4WD with the 22RE engine.
I'm ready for the Zombies!
biscuithead
Me likes the eargasm retroplasm...
We gave my wife's oldest son a oak dining room table & chairs and sofa when he "needed" it.. When he moved out he left it all behind in the house he was sharing with his buds. It had zero value to him at that point I guess.
I would like to offer a different perspective.... when you said "at that point".... I think timing is everything.
When my Grandma died about 20 years ago, I was still in college, and working and moving a lot. My Mom asked if if I wanted her silverware, her coffee pot, her pyrex, her x-mas ornaments.... "no thanks Mom, I don't want to move that stuff around, and I don't want to add to my storage in your house" I said... My wife and I have since purchased all of these things, because "it is just like Grandmas. How I wish I would have said yes to mom...
About 5 years ago my Dad asked if I wanted his 1952 Chevy pick-up that he spent the last 4 years "restoring".... I judged his restoration to be slip-shod, and I would have had to drive and trailer it about 12 hours.... I said "no thanks Dad, you should just sell it, I don't have the room". I had just had my first child, just moved into a new house, just , just , just... so he just sold it. Dad died last month, I wish I had JUST said "yes"! He was proud of the piece of ****. I wish I would have said yes, maybe I'd be less of a piece of ****...
My mom ( she's 73) has started doing the "final-countdown-clean-out" ... although my wife gives me dirty looks, I have said yes to everything and I am putting in lots of time with all the junk moving and sorting. It is funny how when you are younger, you can't be burdened with all the crap, then you get middle aged, and the memories are locked into all the stuff.... then your own mortality smacks you in the face and you try to pass on the stuff, hoping that the memories pass too.... "value" has many measurements, don't be too hard on your wife's oldest son, blame the timing.
We did it too, but - I grew up in the DC suburbs - we KNEW we lived near ground Zero -
we KNEW when the missiles were in flight we were a major target -
THAT is Kiss your hindquarters behind stuff!
Fortunately, no one has used the Launch Codes yet ...