Those L250's showed up initially on local CL. I called the seller, and these came out of unpaid storage unit, and the seller was willing to go lower than his listed price. I didn't have the funds and took a pass. That CL ad lasted about 45 minutes, and was gone. The next day, the L250's showed up on eBay, from a seller across the bay. The very evening that the auction closed, a CL ad showed up for the same pair for $3500 two towns away. That ad lasted about 5 minutes, and was gone. Lots of action there over a 10 day period!!