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Kenwood L Series Stack on ebay. No takers?

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Careless photography, shouty and shifty description, and lack of basic cleaning do not inspire confidence. With today's liberal ratings system, you would have to blow it hard to get a 97% rating. Remember the old days when it took years and hundreds of transactions to raise rating just 1%?
 
No question this seller's Ebay technique leaves a lot to be desired. Looks like his Ebay rating downfall was one deal almost a year ago. As we know, the ball is always handed to the buyer in any Ebay transaction dispute. Knowing that, I'd still call it a worthy deal considering the final outcome scenarios. Last pair of L-09M's I sold went for more than his BIN and it wasn't an Ebay transaction. Now if I was a flipping type of collector...:D
 
I'd buy right now but the rust scared me off. Who knows what the guts look like if the painted bits are rusty...
 
Bigears said:
...I'd still call it a worthy deal considering the final outcome scenarios. Last pair of L-09M's I sold went for more than his BIN and it wasn't an Ebay transaction. Now if I was a flipping type of collector...:D
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Damn! I'm up to my eyeballs in Nines!!
 
HyKlas said:
I'd buy right now but the rust scared me off. Who knows what the guts look like if the painted bits are rusty...
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The cover has the thinnest coat of paint ever so the rust is not too surprising. It is just on one amp so maybe it isn't too bad. I think the better indicator of corrosion would be the RCA jacks, which look decent enough. For his BIN price, the seller should be able to take the cover off that one amp and show what is going on.

Anyways, I would be a lot more concerned about how this guy is going to package these amps. It wouldn't surprise me if he packed with newspaper and popcorn.
 
Yes on the paint. Even nice one's I've seen have splotches of rust. As Sam points out, the packing is going to be the issue. Each L-09M when properly packed will weigh nearly 65 lbs. If these ship in less than 4 boxes all bets are off....
 
I just can't believe it's still there at that bargain BIN price,especially when a couple of Kenwood L-02T tuners went for around $2,500.00 and $3,000.00 respectively via bidding on Ebay U.S. around 9 years ago!
 
One of my pairs of L-09M's came with original receipt from a Roger Sound Lab store. Yes, the same RSL as the speaker line. The L-09M sold for $600 new in July, 1981. He also bought a L-07C for $225.
 
SoCal Sam said:
One of my pairs of L-09M's came with original receipt from a Roger Sound Lab store. Yes, the same RSL as the speaker line. The L-09M sold for $600 new in July, 1981. He also bought a L-07C for $225.
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My Orion shows the MSRP for the L-09M at $700 and the L-07C at $450.
 
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Daunia 70 said:
Very surprising,thought they would've had a much higher MRRP,especially the L-09M mono power-amps.
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That was $600 for the PAIR and $225 for the C was half off! Must have been product run out or maybe a market positioning problem. 1981 was the lower power, down sizing era that immediately followed the excesses of the late Seventies. They were probably a tough sell given the market condition at the time. And, battleship grey is not the happiest color. I think a blingy silver or champagne face would have made the L-09M a true classic ala the Accuphase M-60. Interestingly, the M-60 is no where near the design of the L-09M. The L-09M featured separate transformers for the positive and negative rails. Talk about over-kill.
 
SoCal Sam said:
That was $600 for the PAIR and $225 for the C was half off! Must have been product run out or maybe a market positioning problem. 1981 was the lower power, down sizing era that immediately followed the excesses of the late Seventies. They were probably a tough sell given the market condition at the time. And, battleship grey is not the happiest color. I think a blingy silver or champagne face would have made the L-09M a true classic ala the Accuphase M-60. Interestingly, the M-60 is no where near the design of the L-09M. The L-09M featured separate transformers for the positive and negative rails. Talk about over-kill.
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RSL seemed to get a lot of close out merchandise. I remember buying a Kyocera TOTL CDP for dirt cheap in the mid 80's and I went back the next day to get one for a friend and they were sold out at every location.

The receipt you have may have been a close out sale as well. The C was an outgoing model replaced by the C I and C II for nearly double the MSRP of the C. The L series looked too utilitarian or industrial compared to the Pioneer's and Sansui's of that era and that may have hurt the sales. Although the huge discounts on closeouts models from that era seem universal.
 
I bought a pair of L09M's and had them refurbished by EchoWars. The power supply caps alone were $400. After the rebuild they were very nice amps. Before the rebuild they were very tired sounding.
 
Mark B said:
I bought a pair of L09M's and had them refurbished by EchoWars. The power supply caps alone were $400. After the rebuild they were very nice amps. Before the rebuild they were very tired sounding.
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Mark B, I must have missed the thread on EW's L-09M restore. The results must be breath taking.

IIRC, the main filters have an unusually high voltage rating. 105V?? They are of an unusual physical size so sourcing must have been difficult...and costly.
 
Bigears said:
RSL seemed to get a lot of close out merchandise. I remember buying a Kyocera TOTL CDP for dirt cheap in the mid 80's and I went back the next day to get one for a friend and they were sold out at every location.

The receipt you have may have been a close out sale as well. The C was an outgoing model replaced by the C I and C II for nearly double the MSRP of the C. The L series looked too utilitarian or industrial compared to the Pioneer's and Sansui's of that era and that may have hurt the sales. Although the huge discounts on closeouts models from that era seem universal.
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I wonder if any L-07D's found their way to RSL stores.:scratch2:
 
SoCal Sam said:
Mark B, I must have missed the thread on EW's L-09M restore. The results must be breath taking.

IIRC, the main filters have an unusually high voltage rating. 105V?? They are of an unusual physical size so sourcing must have been difficult...and costly.
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Glenn replaced the stock 18,000µF 120V filter caps with 22,000µF 160V caps. Each amp has a pair of them. The amps were spectacular after the rebuild. A number of AK'ers had the opportunity to hear them driving a pair of big Infinity's at a get together at Aaron's. Somewhat ironic as I bought the L09M's from Aaron.
 
The L07T II is more desirable and the market for tuners in general is way down, so that doesn't add as much to the package as you might expect. I hope it finds a good home!
 
So I bought the power amps off of him. Let you know when they get here. I talked to the seller, seemed like a nice enough guy. Said he knew the original owner, and they were well taken care of but many years ago went into storage. That is why there is the rust, they were no where near water damage. Asked about the broken rca on the tuner but he didn't know, said it came out of storage like that. It didn't worry me much as I wasn't buying the tuner. Anyways I just wanted to say hello as a proud new L series owner.

Dan
 
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