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And yet everyone of us have probably been in similar conditions and underestimated just how bad the roads were. I know I have- did a 360 spin on I-64 in Richmond in light snow from just a slight nudge of the wheel in a rear wheel drive car. I will never own one again. He very easily could have hit the snow that builds up in the middle of the road, lost traction in that wheel and had the other one grip, throwing the vehicle into the oncoming truck. It doesn't take a Darwin moment, it just takes a momentary lapse in judgment that any of us are capable of.
 
Fisherdude said:
Yup.

1. Driving too fast for conditions.
2. Driving too close to the vehicle in front.
3. Distracted and/or not paying attention, drifted into the snow in the middle of the road, lost control.
4. Over corrected.
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There is also the issue of highway design. That accident was in Russia.

In the USA we generally have freeways that are divided by barriers or swaths of land. An exception is two lane state highways. A prime example is M-15 in Michigan which probably suffers a head on every two months or so.
 
Seen it before, it never gets less horrific.

I barely lost control on a positrac RWD car and it was scary. Caused some serious damage to the Roadmaster. Why I am buying another RWD one, but without positrac...well I just like Roadmasters.
 
I was passing a slow vehicle on the highway in fog earlier this year in my rwd Ram 1500. As I was accelerating to pass someone (because it was foggy and didn't want to be surprised by an on coming vehicle) my rear wheels started to slip at 50 mph. With my foot off of the gas and steering into the skid I still did a 180 , went into the ditch and half way into the field. Luckily there was no other traffic and there was still snow in the ditch to slow me down. Not even a scratch on the truck, backed up into the field and back onto the highway and drove to work. Like has been said, it only takes a second.
 
That first video is terrible. It's not a bad idea to find wide open space to learn how your car behaves in slick conditions.
 
carcrazy said:
I was passing a slow vehicle on the highway in fog earlier this year in my rwd Ram 1500. As I was accelerating to pass someone (because it was foggy and didn't want to be surprised by an on coming vehicle)
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:scratch2:.....please tell me you did not cross the yellow lines to pass a vehicle in the fog. . . . .:no:

As to the first video,it seems to me it's just a matter of going too fast in those conditions.If you watch closely the panel van pulls to the right to allow the guy to pass him.Then the driver of the SUV starts to accelerate....:screwy:
and starts to lose it....it also looks like there are 3 times where if he took his foot off of the accelerator he might still be alive....:tears:
 
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Tapehead47 said:
That looks like a big American pickup truck. Why are folks saying it's in Russia?
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On hint that it's not in North America is that no vehicle seems to have
the third braking light in the top rear center. I also understand that
the Russians do have the money to import most any vehicle. Regards.
 
ebacon said:
There is also the issue of highway design. That accident was in Russia.

In the USA we generally have freeways that are divided by barriers or swaths of land. An exception is two lane state highways. A prime example is M-15 in Michigan which probably suffers a head on every two months or so.
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I've driven in 48 of the 50 states. Undivided four lane roads are very common everywhere.
 
If you watch the video real closely, you'll see the big white truck that the SUV swerves into, over correct to the left when being hit by the SUV and forcing the SUV over to the left in front of the oncoming 18 wheeler. At least that's the way I see it.
 
Video 1 (Russia): Bad driving conditions to begin with. The snow piled on the roadsides, the wet-looking road, and the windshield wipers all show that. Traffic going a little bit too fast for the conditions, and vehicles shifting lanes back-and-forth. A recipe for trouble. Add to that a minor accident coupled with some apparently poor reactions --but typical in a driver who hasn't had special training to turn into skids/fishtails (the natural instinct is to do the opposite of what you should!)-- and traffic in two directions with no divider between them, and it becomes a recipe for exactly the kind of tragic disaster the video shows.

Really sad, especially since such accidents should be avoidable.


Video 2 (Norway): Man, that guy in the tow truck was really lucky that he was able to get out safely, before his truck got pulled over. The driver in the semi was lucky not to be more seriously injured, but his vehicle would have been the easier one to survive in. Had the driver in the towtruck been in the cab when it rolled down the hill, there's a higher chance he would have been seriously injured or killed. Also, that COLD water at the bottom might have been a bit closer, in which case it could have been worse, if the vehicles had rolled into it and been submerged... a death would be the probable result in that case. Both drivers were lucky.

Seeing videos like these periodically, is a good way to remind oneself to always, always drive safely! :yes:
 
when you get into a slush pile your at the mercy of odds, great tread helps but just like mirror finish ice your screwed.
 
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