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Looks like Yamaha is going back to their high end roots like Technics did
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SoCal Sam
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https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/speaker_systems/ns-5000/index.html
I was looking over the description of the NS-5000 and noticed the following:
Hmmm. A bit of marketing deflection.
I was looking over the description of the NS-5000 and noticed the following:
Hmmm. A bit of marketing deflection.
Tedrick
Infinity-phile
Yamaha engineers have devised a new physics.
SoCal Sam
Lunatic Member
Not doubting the achievement or the design, I've always thought Yamaha speakers were the best voiced of the mass market manufacturers. However, Zylon or whatever the dome is made of is not Be and does not come close to the acoustic material properties of Be. In addition to strength and rigidity, Be boasts material resonance well into ultra-sonic so there is no chance of cascade into audible range. My objection is why even mention Be except to associate the NS-5000 with the great NS-1000M and relatives which if made today, would be at the cutting edge. See the sales write up and price tag of the Focal Grand Utopia for market position of Be drivers.
I’ve heard the Persona’s as well as there lower end new gear and maybe it was the equipment used to drive them (Macintosh) but I wasn’t impressed, that’s not to say with the right gear they wouldn’t sound good but my first impression was not good and I’m a paradigm fan . I owned a pair of Signature 6’s and I ran them with a Krell integrated amp and the sound was not good at all, way to bright for my taste . So paradigm is definitely sensitive to the gear used .
Audiofreak71
I've read that the Personas need to be sensitively matched with regard to partnering equipment.
I just read a review of the Yamaha NS 5000s 30 minutes ago which said the NS 5000 needed to be placed in the room with exacting accuracy regarding toe-in and distance from the listener. The NS 5000s were apparently sensitive to cabling parameters.
Neither of the brands are alone in those respects.
restorer-john
Addicted Member
Maybe we should all paint our speakers gloss black?
On the NS-5000 : "Glossy black piano finish provides improved signal-to-noise performance"
On the NS-5000 : "Glossy black piano finish provides improved signal-to-noise performance"
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Perhaps based upon the well known scientifically proven maxim: Happy Wife: Happy Life. A new parameter in the specifications: Signal to Spousal noise ratio.Maybe we should all paint out speakers gloss black?
On the NS-5000 : "Glossy black piano finish provides improved signal-to-noise performance"
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Maybe we should all paint out speakers gloss black?
On the NS-5000 : "Glossy black piano finish provides improved signal-to-noise performance"
HUH???? LOL Good LORD I despise a glossy finish on any speaker!
mrtim6
Active Member
Hi all - any AK members going to the Como Melbourne hifi av show 19-21 October 2018?
Yamaha exhibitors are bringing a GT-2000 & NS-1000 as well as their new Gt-5000, new amps and NS-5000.
Now that would be one very interesting shoot out!
I’m still overseas so no chance for me unfortunately.
Here’s the web link:
https://click.mlsend.com/link/c/YT0...p.9UYzafoGxgKY0WReA_yAuGnyDoEDEW9Bohs8vuS56MA
Yamaha exhibitors are bringing a GT-2000 & NS-1000 as well as their new Gt-5000, new amps and NS-5000.
Now that would be one very interesting shoot out!
I’m still overseas so no chance for me unfortunately.
Here’s the web link:
https://click.mlsend.com/link/c/YT0...p.9UYzafoGxgKY0WReA_yAuGnyDoEDEW9Bohs8vuS56MA
The most illustrative comparison would be to play a system comprised of GT 2000/NS 1000, then play the GT 5000/NS 5000 system, then after those two demonstrations swap the turntables.
Demonstrate the GT 2000/NS 5000 combination and the GT 5000/ NS 1000 system just to narrow down what was contributing what to each system
Demonstrate the GT 2000/NS 5000 combination and the GT 5000/ NS 1000 system just to narrow down what was contributing what to each system
KentTeffeteller
Gimpus Stereophilus!
Not bad, but there has been some Yamaha gear which was STK afllicted, with that type of IC output module, Yamaha later on was a lot like Kenwood in the 1970's through early 1980's, very mixed in what they manufactured, and no rhyme or reason on circuit designs, whether discrete transistors being used heavily one year, IC modules in lower and even some middle end models, and back and forth for a time. Yamaha's worst problem in the marketplace (and I've posted about this a few times), is they sell practically everything from budget gear to some gear which is touching high end. In Japan, one brand for all this isn't a problem.
In the USA, it is a big problem because since the 1980's, the Yamaha dealer tends to be less likely to be the good dealers who sell the nicer equipment makes. So, this tends to make the bread and butter budget to middle of the road items sell great. And the higher end Yamaha lines get little attention. Rarely get the focus they need and the knowledgeable dealer and sales staff. Yamaha needs a high end line, marketed to specialty audio retailers for their nicest audio gear, with a separate branding and dealer network. Sony has their different over the years high end lines, sold through separate dealers, as has Pioneer. And Onkyo.
MannyE
Exterminate!
That would be very interesting. But could have the effect of sending GT-2000 prices through the roof!
restorer-john
Addicted Member
They won't do that. Yamaha always controlled their demonstrations back in the day, I don't see any of that changing.
They want to wow show goers and sell currently manufactured gear.
Hopefully some Australian AKer can get to the show and take some pics of the 'comparison' setup.
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