Hi, the tech who worked on my Amplifier seems to have misplaced it. I am having trouble believing him as I think it may have been sold. He works out of Saint Catharines Ont out of his home. A Police report and small claims have been used although I just want my amp back. Contact me if you come across one as I can identify mine. This is a long shot but thought I would post. Thanks
Lost Sansui AU-9500
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A serial number would be helpful to aid in spotting it if it ends up posted for sale somewhere online (assuming the serial number remains intact, if something crooked has in fact happened). There are a fair number of AU-9500’s around and they are pretty commonly found for sale. Certainly you don't want to be inundated with links for every one that pops up for sale going forward.
Wow, I call BS! How do you “misplace” a 50lb. amp! That sux big time! I hope it works out for you.
baeron
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I would look at anything to help find it. The fellow will not answer his door to Police or answer my calls. On placing the paper work for small claims I found out more info on this tech that does not look good. I did manage to get my Marantz off him before that went missing. I would be able to identify mine easily but I do not have the serial number. I think I just need to let this go. Thanks for the response. Mike
That's a tough break, and it really sucks that there are clowns like this "losing" (read: stealing) their customer's equipment and then ducking responsibility. Not the first such case, there was Noah Schumacher a few years back who scammed so much gear he actually got prosecuted. Some gear was recovered and returned to the rightful owners, but much wasn't, and many people were just out of luck. Before that there was QuadBob, much of the gear he failed to return was never resolved satisfactorily, to my knowledge. Further, no case was ever brought against him.
The bigger problem is that without the documented serial number (and legally satisfactory proof of your ownership) I don't think you have any chance of getting it back even if you do find it somewhere. How will you be able to convince police that a unit you spot is actually yours? You'd need something to establish ownership, and not just a statement "hey, that's mine. It has a distinct scratch in the lower left corner of the faceplate" (or whatever means you can use personally to recognize it). Point being that no police dept will endeavor to recover it for you without some way of provably establishing it was (and still is) actually yours.
If the guy is local, I'd probably stake him out and confront him when he leaves the house. He has to go out sometime. Of course he'll avoid phone calls and other official attempts to make contact, he's a chickens***. I'm bold enough I wouldn't accept that, and would put that skid mark on the spot.
That might not get my stuff back, but I'm not above using a little intimidation on a crook even if just for the entertainment value of it. Yeah, I know that isn't a popular position, but nobody screws me and gets away clean with it, whether it gets resolved within the law or not. But enough said on that.
The bigger problem is that without the documented serial number (and legally satisfactory proof of your ownership) I don't think you have any chance of getting it back even if you do find it somewhere. How will you be able to convince police that a unit you spot is actually yours? You'd need something to establish ownership, and not just a statement "hey, that's mine. It has a distinct scratch in the lower left corner of the faceplate" (or whatever means you can use personally to recognize it). Point being that no police dept will endeavor to recover it for you without some way of provably establishing it was (and still is) actually yours.
If the guy is local, I'd probably stake him out and confront him when he leaves the house. He has to go out sometime. Of course he'll avoid phone calls and other official attempts to make contact, he's a chickens***. I'm bold enough I wouldn't accept that, and would put that skid mark on the spot.
That might not get my stuff back, but I'm not above using a little intimidation on a crook even if just for the entertainment value of it. Yeah, I know that isn't a popular position, but nobody screws me and gets away clean with it, whether it gets resolved within the law or not. But enough said on that.
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DB-7
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How did you hook up with this so called "tech". Did he advertise or did someone refer him to you?
What's his name? What is his address. His phone #? If the police won't do anything you should at least call him out. Advertise his name on kijiji and other classifieds as a scammer.
I live in the area, and I dont know of any trust worthy techs within 100km of this area.
The tech I use is in Brampton and was referred to him by quite a few audio collectors that trust him with their very high-end gear.
Due diligence is a must. The tech I use in Brampton takes pictures of the serial #'s and texts them to my phone. Requests $50 non-refundable deposit just to diagnose and gives a receipt for that. I know his full name, phone numbers, email, where he lives, etc.
He updates me weekly, even if he isn't working on my stuff.
I'd like to know the guys' names and address where you took your stuff to. Just so I can warn others.
Pm me if you don't want it public.
Problem is. Your amp was likely gone the second you dropped it off. Techs (especially the dirt bags) know people who will buy and pay good for stuff like that. That's why you will never see it posted in a classified for sale
What's his name? What is his address. His phone #? If the police won't do anything you should at least call him out. Advertise his name on kijiji and other classifieds as a scammer.
I live in the area, and I dont know of any trust worthy techs within 100km of this area.
The tech I use is in Brampton and was referred to him by quite a few audio collectors that trust him with their very high-end gear.
Due diligence is a must. The tech I use in Brampton takes pictures of the serial #'s and texts them to my phone. Requests $50 non-refundable deposit just to diagnose and gives a receipt for that. I know his full name, phone numbers, email, where he lives, etc.
He updates me weekly, even if he isn't working on my stuff.
I'd like to know the guys' names and address where you took your stuff to. Just so I can warn others.
Pm me if you don't want it public.
Problem is. Your amp was likely gone the second you dropped it off. Techs (especially the dirt bags) know people who will buy and pay good for stuff like that. That's why you will never see it posted in a classified for sale
I had two referrals on the tech that I took it to. When I dropped it I was unsure about him but still left it. I would know if it was mine due to a few things but I probably will not have a chance to verify. Hopefully I will. Will be visiting his house again probably with the Police but he may not answer again. Thanks again for the response. Mike
I will post his name and business when this shakes out a little more. It will be after I see him.
I'll add that I'm of the opinion that anyone doing this sort of stuff should be called out publicly, even if only to protect others from getting scammed. If the scammers want to squeal and bitch about being "defamed", they have an easy out: return that property which they are not rightfully in possession of to it's owner without further dissembling and delay, and voila, problem solved. If you want to give him some time to make it right before going public, I can respect that.
Just as an example, I have a customer who had hired a flooring contractor, who then completely botched a job, for which he had paid in cash, no less. The owner of the company was totally unresponsive to requests to correct the poor workmanship. So, customer (who I've done plumbing work for several times and can vouch for as a perfectly reasonable individual) aired out his complaints online via Facebook and such. Apparently that made such a dent in the outfits business that the owner finally contacted him, practically begging to call off the dogs.
Last I heard, the flooring contractor never made it right, but at least the customer - who got fleeced on a $3000 job - had the satisfaction of hitting them right in the wallet by scuttling a lot of their potential business locally. Sometimes that's the only satisfaction to be had in such a situation.
Just as an example, I have a customer who had hired a flooring contractor, who then completely botched a job, for which he had paid in cash, no less. The owner of the company was totally unresponsive to requests to correct the poor workmanship. So, customer (who I've done plumbing work for several times and can vouch for as a perfectly reasonable individual) aired out his complaints online via Facebook and such. Apparently that made such a dent in the outfits business that the owner finally contacted him, practically begging to call off the dogs.
Last I heard, the flooring contractor never made it right, but at least the customer - who got fleeced on a $3000 job - had the satisfaction of hitting them right in the wallet by scuttling a lot of their potential business locally. Sometimes that's the only satisfaction to be had in such a situation.
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FWIW. There are currently two AU 9500 / TU 9500 combos available for sale in the GTA area on Canuckaudiomart. They are pricey. But have been there since mid September so maybe that is why. This assumes you need to replace your amp, and that you have no luck in getting yours back. Maybe the sellers would negotiate. I have noticed some higher end pieces seem to have stopped moving lately. Maybe $$ is needed for food and gas and it is a buyer's market.
So is the one you bought the one that was effectively stolen from you, or another one entirely? If the former, was Pete's Electronics the outfit that purloined it in the first place, or were they an intermediary who just got tangled up in the situation unknowingly?
Just would like the details of who was at fault (or not) cleared up here.
Just would like the details of who was at fault (or not) cleared up here.
Wow! Cool, crazy ending! Glad you got it back!
The listing on Kijijji was for my amp. I knew it was mine as it is missing the power light bezel and had an outline of a small piece of tape. The fellow who listed it knows Peter and visited his shop and bought it for 400 dollars. On calling him he said he was not aware of it being in for repair so I paid him the cash and took it back home.
It was not serviced but works fine.
I learned my lesson. Thanks
DB-7
Super Member
I frequent classifieds way too much. The first search is always Sansui gear. There is never much Sansui for sale locally, so when an AU-9500 got posted, l immediately contacted Mike. It's a good thing he got on it right away because it was posted at a fairly low price compared to the only other AU-9500 posted in all of Ontario.
It's too bad he had to buy it back, but at least he got it back.
Was the 3rd party seller just someone that got caught in the middle? I doubt we will ever know that truth to that.
@Mike271 please post pics of your AU-9500 in the "Show me your Sansui" thread.
It's too bad he had to buy it back, but at least he got it back.
Was the 3rd party seller just someone that got caught in the middle? I doubt we will ever know that truth to that.
@Mike271 please post pics of your AU-9500 in the "Show me your Sansui" thread.