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Marantz 2245 death short

FRANKPIETTE

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Hello everyone,

Hi recently got a Marantz 2245 in a near NOS state. It never collected dust. So first thing i did was to check the connections at J018 terminal block for AC voltage selections to verify it was hoooked for 120V and that the back panel fuse value for 120V (3A). So with my Variac and DBT. Started at 0VAC up to 115, the relay had clicked previously around 90VAC and noticed that at 115VAC i got a dimmed glow on the bulb filament. I used a 100w bulb. Went to turn it off when i touched the faceplace, i got a little tickeling of AC. Put the black lead in the ground outlet and it measured 9-10 VAC leaking. Let it at 115VAC and listened to it an played fine. All pots were amazing like new no noise or else.

First thing i wanted to check was the big snubber cap+resistor .1uF/120Ohms 500V (Installed) *SM capacitance is wrong it shows .056uF. at Jthe 4 terminal lug Also there's the 2.2 MOhm resistor on the same terminal that goes to ground. The old Carbon resistor was still in spec. The capacitor was more than 30% over it's capacitance. So waited for the part then I replaced it with a Kemet .1uF/100Ohms (couldn't find any at 120Ohms). So i replace both, resistor too, for a different compo. Hooked back the 2 wires, one at the back panel fuse 2 wire connector the other one right after the unswitched outlet. Started at 0VAC again then got a good short around 30-35VAC from the variac. So i unplugged it emptied the main caps removed my 2 wire from where i just soldered them. Just tested it Cap and resistor not in circuit, and still got a short at the exact same voltage 30-35VAC on the V. I checked all wires around where i unsoldered and resoldered, nothing to see there, still like new. So decided to remove all four output transistors at that stage, since it's my number one culprit for death shorts, have to replace thermal compound anyway. Still a short at 35VAC input with the big snubber unplugged, all for output transistors out. Tested the bridge rectifier in diode mode still good, i got .450V on each AC connector in and almost .9V measuring from both DC connector (double V). And OL everywhere changing probes order. Nobody touched it while waiting for the parts i added to an existing order. So had a dimmed glow at DBT at 115V with AC on the chassis, was playing on all all sources but haven't connected a TT for the basic tests. And still shorting. I don't have my ESR meter here unfortunaly but i removed the 2 main caps, until. Since it's a universial 5 voltages unit i prefer to ask you Wizards of the Forum first. Anyone needs a short for free? Thank you for reading this! Happy Halloween!

Also there's an error in the SM the main Caps are 9000uF not 6800 voltage good

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This should be moved to the Marantz forum so there's more visibility for the Marantz experts there to weigh in.
 
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Not sure I read this all carefully enough but I think you're chasing a phantom. AC voltage on the chassis is normal as is a tingle when you touch the faceplate. Search for posts on "tingle".
 
At the base, i'm trying to understand why, since years, i see 1 out of 3 receivers with the faint dimmed glow remaining on the DBT, I had noticed already as for voltage through chassis. + Now i'm trying to figure out howcome it played a few minute, i turned it off. Replaced parts and with the part or without i have a death short at low voltages now, so the initial dimmed glow on DBT is now a Big glow on DBT. I don't have my capacitor tester here. So waiting to see results on my ESR meter i don't have the capacitance function on my old Fluke MM. I will reinstall the original 5B2 Bridge rectifier after cleaning and replacing old thermal paste and Micas. I never saw that issue on any forum so far. Nobody can tell me why 2 original receivers (not restaured) one will have a slight dimmed glow remaining at 120V, and the other won't. And i never felt electricity through chassis with those witgout the dimmed glow remaining, Any help would be so appreciated. Hopefully it won't be the transformer. Thank you all for reading this. What would be the firts thing to do (test) next ? Waiting for the main filter caps. I have all day today to put on it.
 
I just measured AC Red probe on chassis and Black probe to the ground at the wall outlet. 22.8VAC, i reversed prongs polarty and i got 24VAC.

Something is wrong with this unit. I tested it without all output transistors, without the 2 main caps, and without the snuber cap (4 lugs terminal unplugged). There might be a mistake, in the way it was wired for 120V (present), in the manual or else.

Waiting for my order, All opinions on the AC voltage i measured, more less 24VAC, are very much welcome! Thanks
 
I found a surprise as for the voltage selection (wiring) in the Marantz 2245 service manual. I saw 2 in fact one is showing a ''hand correction'' as to where the wires go for 220V-240V. Anyone can confirm wich is wich?

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