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MC2600 - Is it the Big Dog?

damacman

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The MC2600 continues to have a cult following, long after its production run ended (almost 30yrs ago now). Why is that? I have a few ideas . . .

A few facts . . .

Production on the MC2600 ended in 1995. When first introduced in 1990, the amplifier had a retail price of $5,300. By the end of production, that had risen to $6,000. It was the last of the BIG McIntosh power amplifiers to utilize the 6 rack space tall, fan cooled 19" wide rack mount chassis - MI-350 / MC3500, MC2300, and MC2500 were the others. The MC500, introduced in 1994, was destined to replace it.

According to members here that worked for McIntosh dealers when the amp was introduced, the MC2600 was a significant step up from the MC2500 as it had two new features - high current capability and autoformers designed to facilitate delivery of that to the loads. The MC2500 was rated to deliver 55A/ch whereas the new MC2600 was rated at nearly double that at 100A/ch. From an engineering standpoint, this was surely an accomplishment. The speaker output barrier strips were upgraded to specially designed ones which could accommodate cables up to 4 AWG in size and the amp included both XLR and TRS input jacks in addition to the RCAs.

The fan cooling is thermostatically controlled and particularly difficult to trigger in a domestic setting. [I'm sure in my house party days we would have had the fans running in HI.] I can tell you first hand that this is true. The combination of fans, heat sink mass, the chassis layout, and the autoformers made the amp equally suited to the rigors of professional and industrial applications. According to McIntosh at the time, The McIntosh MC 2600 is truly the finest amplifier produced by McIntosh.

Some opinion . . .

I've owned a pair of these amplifiers for some time. I remember vividly reading Bascom King's assessment of the MC2600 as it graced the cover of Audio Magazine BITD. He measured some 850wpc at the onset of Power Guard. Crazy. I was determined to own one at some point. After a decade of looking, I found my first in 2014 (2nd pic - #6 off of the production line). They are quite unique. Some time ago, I penned a thread on the MC2500 as being the best value in used McIntosh. My opinion on that hasn't changed. While the MC2600 is certainly the most unique power amplifier I've ever owned, its capabilities are simply not needed by most. I run my pair bridged mono to a pair of XRT22s, mainly because I can. They mostly mock me - even during spirited listening sessions. They have bigger balls than I, and significantly. If you believe you own a pair of loudspeakers that could tax an MC2600 in a domestic setting, you'd be wrong. However, there is some level of understanding required here to understand how to lever the amp's capabilities.

Firstly, you should understand how McIntosh derives its current capability ratings for this amplifier as well as the dynamic power capabilities. Read #3 and #4 carefully from the specs I copied from the inside of the OM. You can't replicate that with any pair of loudspeakers in a domestic setting and no pair of speakers I know of can handle that kind of power to begin with. Then, when it comes to tap selection, see the pic with the graphs. This is copied from the MC7300 Owners Manual, but Mc did not supply this with the MC2600. Then, keep in mind that the MC7300 simply doesn't have the thermal capabilities of the MC2600 (no fan cooling, much less heat sink mass, etc.). Show me a case in a domestic setting where one would choose anything other than the 8 Ohm taps on an MC2600 - regardless of the speakers connected.

Given what I've attained with even a single MC2600 in my listening space, I've always wondered what an MC602 would be like as it reportedly has even greater capabilities. [I did own an MC500 for a period of time.] However, the MC602 lacks the thermal management system of the MC2600.

Now, if you compare the MC2600 to the MC2500 which it replaced, the differences are subtle in a domestic setting. In my space, it is possible to drive a single MC2500 to levels which can flicker the Power Guard Lamps, but not often as you really have to try. And we're talking about playback levels which I would deem as uncofortable for most. I've been unable to ever do this with an MC2600. Rich Andrews (long ago member here) uncovered some manufacturing changes in the latest MC2500s which involved the relocation of a harness internally which brought the S/N closer to that of an MC2600 but I've never seen the need to do this in any of the four MC2500s I own.

If you own loudspeakers which are particularly difficult to drive, amps beginning with the MC7200 are more suited to drive them than prior designs. I've never admired such speakers, as Infinity Kappa 9s for example, whereas the impedance curve is IMHO more of a result of improper crossover network design than a mettle test for a power amplifier. However, I would love the chance to power a pair with one of my MC2600s - that may be a match made in heaven.

Last pic is my pair.
 

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Do you have to watch the meter to make sure you don't blow the XRT 22's or are they actually rated to take that sort of power?
What a setup. Nice pics. I'll say that you bring up many good points as to the amp's dedicated following. I also think the styling is great. It has such a commercial , built to last look. It does not need the big new lettering that some of the new units have to look tough.
 
Do you have to watch the meter to make sure you don't blow the XRT 22's or are they actually rated to take that sort of power?
What a setup. Nice pics. I'll say that you bring up many good points as to the amp's dedicated following. I also think the styling is great. It has such a commercial , built to last look. It does not need the big new lettering that some of the new units have to look tough.
The 22s have on-board 4A fuses to limit power. I've never opened them playing music.

The tweeter arrays are designed to handle 250W RMS each at any frequency in their bandwidth, so that definitely helps a bunch with big amplifiers. Even yet, I'm likely using 1/3 or so of the available power from the amps with them.
 
1/3 or so of the power. That makes sense. I was wondering how much knob before this amp could be considered 'cranked'. I guess you rarely get to see the needle on the right side of the meters.

I wish my speakers had some onboard protection. That would give me a little peace of mind. I watch the meters when I want to push it louder.
 
Here are a few additional photos I've collected of MC2600s over the years. Enjoy.

Oddly enough, I have three friends who each also have a pair of them.
 

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I installed a few 2600's and like I have said else where they never failed me in commercial or professional service. The very few home owners never had issues either. Lets see, large Magnepans with 85 db efficiency would benefit greatly from 2600's. KLH 9's, too. XR 290's were tested with 2600's wired for mono and people used them with MC 1000's. MY XRT 28's are rated at 1200 watts but thats more of a music power rating and MC 2600's and MC 602's would be a great choice. I prefer the mono MC 830's that measure about 580 watts continuous each into the 4 ohms which my speakers are in fact. As I am an old man I can lift them one at a time. I could never lift a 2300, 2500, 2600, 602, 601, 611, 1201, 1.2k or 1.25k or the new or old 3500's. So Mcintosh, thank you for producing the MC 830. I did lift the early 3500's by myself when in my 20's, but from then on it was two Strong people to lift those light weight amplifiers. Mcintosh was like Ampex professional. Throw a product in a portable carrying case with handles602476_xl.jpgdownload.jpg and call a studio multi channel tape recorder portable. If a Mac amp had handle or side rails it was considered portable, too. Hog wash. I wish I had had that blue portable case for my 4 channel Ampex. You could store tape under the tape transport very easily.
 
The MC2600 continues to have a cult following, long after its production run ended (almost 30yrs ago now). Why is that? I have a few ideas . . .

A few facts . . .

Production on the MC2600 ended in 1995. When first introduced in 1990, the amplifier had a retail price of $5,300. By the end of production, that had risen to $6,000. It was the last of the BIG McIntosh power amplifiers to utilize the 6 rack space tall, fan cooled 19" wide rack mount chassis - MI-350 / MC3500, MC2300, and MC2500 were the others. The MC500, introduced in 1994, was destined to replace it.

According to members here that worked for McIntosh dealers when the amp was introduced, the MC2600 was a significant step up from the MC2500 as it had two new features - high current capability and autoformers designed to facilitate delivery of that to the loads. The MC2500 was rated to deliver 55A/ch whereas the new MC2600 was rated at nearly double that at 100A/ch. From an engineering standpoint, this was surely an accomplishment. The speaker output barrier strips were upgraded to specially designed ones which could accommodate cables up to 4 AWG in size and the amp included both XLR and TRS input jacks in addition to the RCAs.

The fan cooling is thermostatically controlled and particularly difficult to trigger in a domestic setting. [I'm sure in my house party days we would have had the fans running in HI.] I can tell you first hand that this is true. The combination of fans, heat sink mass, the chassis layout, and the autoformers made the amp equally suited to the rigors of professional and industrial applications. According to McIntosh at the time, The McIntosh MC 2600 is truly the finest amplifier produced by McIntosh.

Some opinion . . .

I've owned a pair of these amplifiers for some time. I remember vividly reading Bascom King's assessment of the MC2600 as it graced the cover of Audio Magazine BITD. He measured some 850wpc at the onset of Power Guard. Crazy. I was determined to own one at some point. After a decade of looking, I found my first in 2014 (2nd pic - #6 off of the production line). They are quite unique. Some time ago, I penned a thread on the MC2500 as being the best value in used McIntosh. My opinion on that hasn't changed. While the MC2600 is certainly the most unique power amplifier I've ever owned, its capabilities are simply not needed by most. I run my pair bridged mono to a pair of XRT22s, mainly because I can. They mostly mock me - even during spirited listening sessions. They have bigger balls than I, and significantly. If you believe you own a pair of loudspeakers that could tax an MC2600 in a domestic setting, you'd be wrong. However, there is some level of understanding required here to understand how to lever the amp's capabilities.

Firstly, you should understand how McIntosh derives its current capability ratings for this amplifier as well as the dynamic power capabilities. Read #3 and #4 carefully from the specs I copied from the inside of the OM. You can't replicate that with any pair of loudspeakers in a domestic setting and no pair of speakers I know of can handle that kind of power to begin with. Then, when it comes to tap selection, see the pic with the graphs. This is copied from the MC7300 Owners Manual, but Mc did not supply this with the MC2600. Then, keep in mind that the MC7300 simply doesn't have the thermal capabilities of the MC2600 (no fan cooling, much less heat sink mass, etc.). Show me a case in a domestic setting where one would choose anything other than the 8 Ohm taps on an MC2600 - regardless of the speakers connected.

Given what I've attained with even a single MC2600 in my listening space, I've always wondered what an MC602 would be like as it reportedly has even greater capabilities. [I did own an MC500 for a period of time.] However, the MC602 lacks the thermal management system of the MC2600.

Now, if you compare the MC2600 to the MC2500 which it replaced, the differences are subtle in a domestic setting. In my space, it is possible to drive a single MC2500 to levels which can flicker the Power Guard Lamps, but not often as you really have to try. And we're talking about playback levels which I would deem as uncofortable for most. I've been unable to ever do this with an MC2600. Rich Andrews (long ago member here) uncovered some manufacturing changes in the latest MC2500s which involved the relocation of a harness internally which brought the S/N closer to that of an MC2600 but I've never seen the need to do this in any of the four MC2500s I own.

If you own loudspeakers which are particularly difficult to drive, amps beginning with the MC7200 are more suited to drive them than prior designs. I've never admired such speakers, as Infinity Kappa 9s for example, whereas the impedance curve is IMHO more of a result of improper crossover network design than a mettle test for a power amplifier. However, I would love the chance to power a pair with one of my MC2600s - that may be a match made in heaven.

Last pic is my pair.
well, if you put a pair of Kappa 9s on a 200w receiver, they will sound like every bad review you have ever read of them. Put them on an MC 2500 or 2600, you will then learn why many owners of these speakers have not upgraded in decades. they truly only sound they way they should with an amp that doesn't break a sweat running them. You really would need to spend around 10k at least on modern speakers to beat them. Sure, they are built weird, far too many proprietary parts makes owning them now a bit dodgy, but the sound........truly an "audio classic".
 
The MC2600 continues to have a cult following, long after its production run ended (almost 30yrs ago now). Why is that? I have a few ideas . . .

A few facts . . .

Production on the MC2600 ended in 1995. When first introduced in 1990, the amplifier had a retail price of $5,300. By the end of production, that had risen to $6,000. It was the last of the BIG McIntosh power amplifiers to utilize the 6 rack space tall, fan cooled 19" wide rack mount chassis - MI-350 / MC3500, MC2300, and MC2500 were the others. The MC500, introduced in 1994, was destined to replace it.

According to members here that worked for McIntosh dealers when the amp was introduced, the MC2600 was a significant step up from the MC2500 as it had two new features - high current capability and autoformers designed to facilitate delivery of that to the loads. The MC2500 was rated to deliver 55A/ch whereas the new MC2600 was rated at nearly double that at 100A/ch. From an engineering standpoint, this was surely an accomplishment. The speaker output barrier strips were upgraded to specially designed ones which could accommodate cables up to 4 AWG in size and the amp included both XLR and TRS input jacks in addition to the RCAs.

The fan cooling is thermostatically controlled and particularly difficult to trigger in a domestic setting. [I'm sure in my house party days we would have had the fans running in HI.] I can tell you first hand that this is true. The combination of fans, heat sink mass, the chassis layout, and the autoformers made the amp equally suited to the rigors of professional and industrial applications. According to McIntosh at the time, The McIntosh MC 2600 is truly the finest amplifier produced by McIntosh.

Some opinion . . .

I've owned a pair of these amplifiers for some time. I remember vividly reading Bascom King's assessment of the MC2600 as it graced the cover of Audio Magazine BITD. He measured some 850wpc at the onset of Power Guard. Crazy. I was determined to own one at some point. After a decade of looking, I found my first in 2014 (2nd pic - #6 off of the production line). They are quite unique. Some time ago, I penned a thread on the MC2500 as being the best value in used McIntosh. My opinion on that hasn't changed. While the MC2600 is certainly the most unique power amplifier I've ever owned, its capabilities are simply not needed by most. I run my pair bridged mono to a pair of XRT22s, mainly because I can. They mostly mock me - even during spirited listening sessions. They have bigger balls than I, and significantly. If you believe you own a pair of loudspeakers that could tax an MC2600 in a domestic setting, you'd be wrong. However, there is some level of understanding required here to understand how to lever the amp's capabilities.

Firstly, you should understand how McIntosh derives its current capability ratings for this amplifier as well as the dynamic power capabilities. Read #3 and #4 carefully from the specs I copied from the inside of the OM. You can't replicate that with any pair of loudspeakers in a domestic setting and no pair of speakers I know of can handle that kind of power to begin with. Then, when it comes to tap selection, see the pic with the graphs. This is copied from the MC7300 Owners Manual, but Mc did not supply this with the MC2600. Then, keep in mind that the MC7300 simply doesn't have the thermal capabilities of the MC2600 (no fan cooling, much less heat sink mass, etc.). Show me a case in a domestic setting where one would choose anything other than the 8 Ohm taps on an MC2600 - regardless of the speakers connected.

Given what I've attained with even a single MC2600 in my listening space, I've always wondered what an MC602 would be like as it reportedly has even greater capabilities. [I did own an MC500 for a period of time.] However, the MC602 lacks the thermal management system of the MC2600.

Now, if you compare the MC2600 to the MC2500 which it replaced, the differences are subtle in a domestic setting. In my space, it is possible to drive a single MC2500 to levels which can flicker the Power Guard Lamps, but not often as you really have to try. And we're talking about playback levels which I would deem as uncofortable for most. I've been unable to ever do this with an MC2600. Rich Andrews (long ago member here) uncovered some manufacturing changes in the latest MC2500s which involved the relocation of a harness internally which brought the S/N closer to that of an MC2600 but I've never seen the need to do this in any of the four MC2500s I own.

If you own loudspeakers which are particularly difficult to drive, amps beginning with the MC7200 are more suited to drive them than prior designs. I've never admired such speakers, as Infinity Kappa 9s for example, whereas the impedance curve is IMHO more of a result of improper crossover network design than a mettle test for a power amplifier. However, I would love the chance to power a pair with one of my MC2600s - that may be a match made in heaven.

Last pic is my pair.
I would be using the 1or 2 ohm taps , the power guard on peaks may or may not illuminate, but wont be necessary i would let the beast run freely . The MC2600 has no 1 ohm tap hence why my look at the 2500 in black of course ..

Regards
 
I installed a few 2600's and like I have said else where they never failed me in commercial or professional service. The very few home owners never had issues either. Lets see, large Magnepans with 85 db efficiency would benefit greatly from 2600's. KLH 9's, too. XR 290's were tested with 2600's wired for mono and people used them with MC 1000's. MY XRT 28's are rated at 1200 watts but thats more of a music power rating and MC 2600's and MC 602's would be a great choice. I prefer the mono MC 830's that measure about 580 watts continuous each into the 4 ohms which my speakers are in fact. As I am an old man I can lift them one at a time. I could never lift a 2300, 2500, 2600, 602, 601, 611, 1201, 1.2k or 1.25k or the new or old 3500's. So Mcintosh, thank you for producing the MC 830. I did lift the early 3500's by myself when in my 20's, but from then on it was two Strong people to lift those light weight amplifiers. Mcintosh was like Ampex professional. Throw a product in a portable carrying case with handlesView attachment 3302051View attachment 3302052 and call a studio multi channel tape recorder portable. If a Mac amp had handle or side rails it was considered portable, too. Hog wash. I wish I had had that blue portable case for my 4 channel Ampex. You could store tape under the tape transport very easily.
Hahaha , Madness i would never attempt to lift my MC3500’s alone ... :)
 
I would be using the 1or 2 ohm taps , the power guard on peaks may or may not illuminate, but wont be necessary i would let the beast run freely . The MC2600 has no 1 ohm tap hence why my look at the 2500 in black of course ..

Regards
MC2600 can drive a 1 Ohm load from the 4 Ohm taps ... look closely at the charts above. Not like an MC2500 would be short on power when driving a low impedance load from the correctly matched tap.

I also have (4) 2500s so I like both. The 2600 is just pretty unique. About the only thing it shares with the 2500 is the looks ...
 
4 - 2500’s .......... :)

Took a look at the graphs , interesting , driving below the tap usually produces distortion due to impedance mismatch.

So a 2600 would work , only to replace the plastic fan covers for metal like the 2300 ..

My journey begins
 
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4 - 2500’s .......... :)

Took a look at the graphs , interesting , driving below the tap usually produces distortion due to impedance mismatch.

So a 2600 would work , only to replace the plastic fan covers for metal like the 2300 ..

My journey begins
Distortion, no. Heat, yes.

Early 2500s also had metal fan guards. I do have some extra ones ... I think.
 

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