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MC30 pre amp recommendations

My opinion, may not be popular but it has been my path to personal audio bliss.
I went ahead and built a preamp.
I couldn't afford any of the good ones, and upon studying them I concluded that there wasn't anything really special about them.
(Unlike tube power amps, which often have very special proprietary transformers)
I had a few things that I liked the sound of, (a Scott designed phonostage, a modern line stage, and enough switching to route only one signal to the output at any given time.)
I decided to stuff them all in one box, with some cinemag step up transformers and call it a preamp.
I built 5 of them so far, and run them with just about every amp I come across with fantastic sound. Buying all new premium components including a few custom components still got me in under the $1000 price point. Finding a vintage tube pre under that price is real slim pickings, and you are not likely to find one which works perfectly and is completely restored.
In collectors value, my preamp is worthless.
Does it maximize my musical enjoyment, definitely does...
Does it sound better than a McIntosh tube preamp? Jury is out on that.
Does it sound worse? Certainly not.
After having done this would I ever consider spending several thousand on a box of 60 year old parts, with sincere expectations of getting a working unit? No. I'd simply be cashing out a collector and then footing the cost of the rebuild myself.
Seems less than prudent if your intent I to listen.
If your intent is to make an investment then buy the investment grade stuff and accept the consequences.
 

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How can this thread not even have pics?

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Ok, another MX110Z pic although it is connected to a Dynakit 70.
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Personally my first choice would be a C8 since it matches the design of the MC30s quite nicely and you can get a DA2 module if you want. Alternatively I would pick up a C2500, C2600, or C2700 with the preference being to the C2700 since the DA2 module so much better than the built in DACs in the C2500 and C2600. If you don't care about built in DACs I would get any of the C22 refreshes, a C2200, or C2300. I wouldn't bother with the vintage C22 or MX110 since their specs are pretty crappy in comparison to modern tube preamps. Also I would avoid the C220 since it also doesn't have super good specs. I wouldn't get a solid state preamp since I feel like those vintage tube amps deserve a tube pre.
 
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Really, anything that appeals is appropriate. Mac doesn't do "simple" in their pre's, so look elsewhere if you favor a basic signal path.
 
I used and HH Scott 130 with my 30’s for a while until I got everything re arranged. Now I’m back to the C-20. Rebuilt of course
 
The C11 on CL in Charlotte, has been sold . . . to me :D. I will open a separate post on this as I get inside of it and do careful updates, first thing on the list is updating PS cans and rectifiers. There is some hum (does not change when volume is increased), and one channel input is intermittent - possibly dirt or loose tube socket - have not investigated yet. This will be driving a recently restored pair of Dynaco MK IIIs.
 
My ideal recommendation with MC30’s would be an MX110Z or an original C22. In my personal opinion, the synergy between these units is so wonderful, when all have been restored properly. Here are some pics of mine…

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My original Mc. C 22 seems to work/sound wonderfully with my electronically restored MC 30s, MC 225, or even my electronically restored Dynaco Mk. III power amps feeding my sunroom`s DQ 10s assisted with 2 Velodyne 400 watt powered subwoofers.
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I picked up a c20 that has been restored by Syd Beaumont. I am still waiting for the MC30's to come back from their restoration as well.

I will report back soundwise once all us broken in.
 
I picked up a c20 that has been restored by Syd Beaumont. I am still waiting for the MC30's to come back from their restoration as well.

I will report back soundwise once all us broken in.

I had a restored 1st generation C20 earlier this year and loved it. Sold it which was stupid. Also had a C22 and sold that, now have a C11 and it won't be going anywhere.

A C20/MC30 combo should be heaven. Especially if you do vinyl, especially older and 78's. Enjoy!
 
C33 and C11. Because sometimes you feel like a tube, and sometimes you don't.

C11 is totally restored, and driving restored Dynaco Mk IIIs. C33 is driving MC2155. Speakers rotate between several pairs of JBLs.
 

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@Bill Ferris how are you using your subwoofer in relation to your tube preamp. I know my 110 suffers from impedance mismatch with solid state amps, does the c22 not suffer from that?
 
@Bill Ferris how are you using your subwoofer in relation to your tube preamp. I know my 110 suffers from impedance mismatch with solid state amps, does the c22 not suffer from that?

I`m just using the sub woofer amp`s low level preamp in from the C22`s output and the high pass outputs connect on to whatever tube amp that`s in rotation, Madman1.

I don`t seem to have any sonic mismatch issues with using my 2 sunroom`s Velodyne ULD 15 subwoofers. ;)
I also don`t know what the Velodyne subwoofer`s amp`s active low level crossover`s input impedance is, but the C22`s low impedance cathode follower output seems to be ok with the Velodyne`s amp`s active crossover`s input impedance. :dunno:

I also have no load mismatch with the two more identical Velodyne active subwoofers in my bedroom`s system with a modern tube Mc. C220 preamp`s output impedance driving them. :thumbsup:
 
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