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Monster Cable vs coathangers?

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I wonder if I buy a pair of very expensive jeans and I use the coat hanger for my speakers if that will improve the bass.....
 
ADVHamburg said:
I wonder if I buy a pair of very expensive jeans and I use the coat hanger for my speakers if that will improve the bass.....
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What you have to do is, Isolate the coathangers (- and +) from each other. Run neg on the left pant leg and the pos on the right, crank it! If you feel a shock, electricians tape! If that dont work at least you got a pair of jeans that improves bass! :yes:
 
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I ran 12AWG wire for my speakers and had to bend them like coat hangers because the wire was so stiff. And they sound good!
 
The only reason I use monster connects is because they were free.. got them after a trial about another company trying to infringe on their packaging.. don't know the outcome, other than I got the exhibits
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Are you saying Noel Lee sued someone? I'm stunned. :scratch2:
 
Alaric said:
Are you saying Noel Lee sued someone? I'm stunned. :scratch2:
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Don't know about sue.. just like anyone else out there.. protecting their patents...

I don't know the story on the deal, but I do know there were quite a few nice cables all packaged up the company had submitted as exhibits and once it was done and over with the attorney on the case said to toss them out or take them.. .that was an easy choice :yes:
 
The reason I type M*nster is Mr. Lee's propensity for suing everyone who thinks the word. I don't want him coming after me for royalties. :)
 
I just tried the coathanger mod, but it wouldn't bend very far before the plastic broke. I don't think this is a good solution.:thumbsdn:
 
I made speaker wire/stands once using very thick gauge solid core wire. Sounded like speaker wire and made a decent stand at the same time. Although, that inaudible skin effect really would have been terrible had it been audible.
 
cfranz said:
OK. So. We take a coat hanger and straigten it out. Then we get rid of any coating by running it through a blow torch. While we're doing that, we use 4% silver solder to tin the wire. And....

8 gadge, silver solder coated grounding bus-bar. Sell it for $5 an inch. :D We can probably pay some kids to do it for a buck a foot.... :smoke:

This hobby is just getting too strange. :scratch2:
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That or just run a ball of heavy-duty kite string through a crucible of molten solder and then coat it with that non-slip goop you dip the handles of pliers in...
 
I've always thought the "audible differences with cables" crowd nuts - victims of the placebo effect, until 2 years ago when I swapped 18g .9999 solid core silver teflon-insulated wire for braided OFC 12g from Monster speaker cable. Call me a self-deluded whack but the difference was not subtle and I can describe it exactly. The problems I was having for years with heavy guage braided copper were eliminated to the degree that after two years using silver, I am still completely happy with the sound and still vividly remember what it sounded like [before silver]. And no, I will not submit to a double-blind listening test - I'm happy with the sound and done tinkering.
 

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I've always thought the "audible differences with cables" crowd nuts - victims of the placebo effect, until 2 years ago when I swapped 18g .9999 solid core silver teflon-insulated wire for braided OFC 12g from Monster speaker cable. Call me a self-deluded whack but the difference was not subtle and I can describe it exactly. The problems I was having for years with heavy guage braided copper were eliminated to the degree that after two years using silver, I am still completely happy with the sound and still vividly remember what it sounded like [before silver]. And no, I will not submit to a double-blind listening test - I'm happy with the sound and done tinkering.
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People can mock it all they want, and I'm sure Monster is not particularly good, but cables do make a difference, and it's not placebo. For me it comes down to fine tuning, and most people aren't inclined to shell out the money because it can get expensive.
 
Well, my speakers are connected with 14 ga. copper wire from Lowes, and I think they sound fine. I've read some of the reviews in "The Absolute Sound" and I think that anybody who would pay $12,000 for a pair of 8' speaker cables is certifiable. Decent interconnects and wires are clearly necessary, but paying extreme amounts of money for them makes no damn sense and nobody will ever convince me otherwise
 
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Well, my speakers are connected with 14 ga. copper wire from Lowes, and I think they sound fine. I've read some of the reviews in "The Absolute Sound" and I think that anybody who would pay $12,000 for a pair of 8' speaker cables is certifiable. Decent interconnects and wires are clearly necessary, but paying extreme amounts of money for them makes no damn sense and nobody will ever convince me otherwise
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Sure there's a limit, I won't argue with that. I believe it's crucial to have quality interconnects and cables in general, nothing extremely expensive, just solid. From there you have the option of fin tuning your system if you wish, and like I said, that get pricey.
 
The RCA jacks on my tube preamp are really close together and don't allow enough room for fancy ICs with the big fat RCA connectors. Just give me a solid connection and I'm happy!
 
We gathered up a 5 of our audio buddies. We took my "old" Martin Logan SL-3 (not a bad speaker for accurate noise making) and hooked them up with Monster 1000 speaker cables (decent cables according to the audio press). We also rigged up 14 gauge, oxygen free Belden stranded copper wire with a simple PVC jacket. Both were 2 meters long. They were connected to an ABX switch box allowing blind fold testing. Volume levels were set at 75 Db at 1000K Hz. A high quality recording of smooth, trio, easy listening jazz was played (Piano, drums, bass). None of us had heard this group or CD before, therefore eliminating biases. The music was played. Of the 5 blind folded, only 2 guessed correctly which was the monster cable. (I was not one of them). This was done 7 times in a row! Keeping us blind folded, my brother switched out the Belden wire (are you ready for this) with simple coat hanger wire! Unknown to me and our 12 audiophile buddies, prior to the ABX blind test, he took apart four coat hangers, reconnectd them and twisted them into a pair of speaker cables. Connections were soldered. He stashed them in a closet within the testing room so we were not privy to what he was up to. This made for a pair of 2 meter cables, the exact length of the other wires. The test was conducted.
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Was it 12 audiophile buddies or five? Did 2 people pick out monster in all 7 tests? As I mentioned in another thread on this subject, for a Ph.D, the author of this article can't spell the word "says" or several other words. I just find a lot of inconsistencies in the post and wonder why it has received attention from Engadget? Seems very strange that Engadget finds a post from some person with 7 posts on a website forum and uses it as some sort of story? Very bizarre!:scratch2:

BTW I use cheap wires, but I do have a pair of some of the cheapo Monster flat cables that I use to run under a rug.
 
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