Need Advice on EQ Hookup
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the skipper
Professional Curmudgeon
I stand corrected. There's always an exception to prove a rule.Crown EQ-2, All ¼" Phone Jacks.
...but why???
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Your turntable needs the receiver for the phono amp in it and then the signal goes out from the tape outputs when you have selected the phono and is returned to the receiver and you listen to the EQ by selecting Tape (whatever one you plugged the EQ into) and enjoy.
If you max any of the middle controls on music and can't hear a difference you might not be listening to the EQ.
Remember the smiley face EQ setting is considered abusive and is not allowed to be used.
If you max any of the middle controls on music and can't hear a difference you might not be listening to the EQ.
Remember the smiley face EQ setting is considered abusive and is not allowed to be used.
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nj pheonix
Lunatic Member
Two thoughts
Receiver (amp?) Has switch which bypasses connections (in bypass mode)
Eq has a flat or out button . Essentially taking controls out of circuit
No, I basically I'm good to turn the reciever on and play a record. I'm no expert in this.I'm one of those who learn better hands on than reading and applying. Just the way I am.
Read manual, dually noted. Thanks for your patience and help.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Pro gear but here is why.
When you pull out an RCA plug from an amp the speakers get one serious jolt of WTF was that. You have heard it. It happens because the RCA breaks the ground signal before breaking the hot signal.
With a ¼" phone plug, the tip is Hot and the sleeve is ground and the tip is removed before the sleeve loses contact with the jack. There is NO noise, no WTF coursing through the system at line level, power amp level or anywhere the ¼" plugs are used. I love the idea but the manufacturers settled on the RCA jack probably because it is so much cheaper.
My Crown gear:
Tape deck, all ¼" TS (tip-sleeve) Phone Jacks
Phono modules, RCA inputs since they are common on turntables, TS outputs
DL-2 preamp RCA inputs, TS outputs
SL One preamp, RCAs (a unit designed for home use)
D-150a TS
DC-300a TS and my first use of this amp in 1974 convinced me of the value of the TS connector because an RCA being unplugged from a DC-300a would cause an Advent woofer to put its ass on the living room floor.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
OK I can help with that, too. Pack all your **** in the conveyance of choice and haul it over here and we'll hook it up and I'll show you how to use it. Maybe that will be easier than doing something the male of the species doesn't seem to be able to do unless absolutely necessary,
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
The links I posted have pictures, maybe that will help you learn about what changes the EQ will make.
But we think you don't have it selected to play as @nj pheonix says, front panel of the EQ and the tape monitor switch on the receiver.
But we think you don't have it selected to play as @nj pheonix says, front panel of the EQ and the tape monitor switch on the receiver.
goodolpg
Just an old fart trying to help.
Check the receiver and make sure the tape monitor (and the right one if it has 2 tape monitors) is ON
Using a listing on ebay and using the zoom feature to view both the front and back of your EQ here is what I think will work.
On the EQ turn ON (push?) the "equalize line" button.
I don't think you want the "equalize tape" button on. I "think" that would eq a 2nd source through the bottom 4 jacks on the back of your EQ.
Forget about the "tape mon" button on the EQ as it will not be used unless you run a 2nd component using the bottom four jacks on the back of the EQ.
I'm only GUESSING now, but flat/bypass mode might be if neither of the "equalize" options are pushed.
If I'm wrong on some/any of this I hope someone will say so.
Using a listing on ebay and using the zoom feature to view both the front and back of your EQ here is what I think will work.
On the EQ turn ON (push?) the "equalize line" button.
I don't think you want the "equalize tape" button on. I "think" that would eq a 2nd source through the bottom 4 jacks on the back of your EQ.
Forget about the "tape mon" button on the EQ as it will not be used unless you run a 2nd component using the bottom four jacks on the back of the EQ.
I'm only GUESSING now, but flat/bypass mode might be if neither of the "equalize" options are pushed.
If I'm wrong on some/any of this I hope someone will say so.
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the skipper
Professional Curmudgeon
The pro gear I've used all used XLR. 1/4 jacks can create a short when inserting/removing. Ask any guitar player.
I am reading through the manual under controls to understand what the push bottons do. The EQ has 4 test-lites. In order for the test-lites to work, three things must happen. The test light button has to be depressed and either the tape or line button is depressed and having an incoming signal. Says the lights are a function of the equalization section output only.
So I have the test-lite button depressed along with the equalize line button. I have all 4 test lites on. They fluctuate in intesity with the music.
As far as the tape monitor switch on the reciever, this Sansui has either the 4ch, 2 ch-1, 2 ch-2. If I depress any of these switches (buttons) I lose sound. This is while the mode selection knob is in phono for the turntable. Mode selector knob is in "normal" position.
goodolpg
Just an old fart trying to help.
What I said above would most likely work with your Marantz.
For your Sansui (are you using it in 2 channel mode?) use one of the monitor selector buttons under the "volume" and "mode" dials.
You need "turntable" selected*, then the correct monitor selector buttons.
Which ever monitor jacks you plug into on the back select the same on the front.
*Actually if the eq monitor is engaged then any source selected, whether TT, FM, aux, whatever, will be equalized.
For your Sansui (are you using it in 2 channel mode?) use one of the monitor selector buttons under the "volume" and "mode" dials.
You need "turntable" selected*, then the correct monitor selector buttons.
Which ever monitor jacks you plug into on the back select the same on the front.
*Actually if the eq monitor is engaged then any source selected, whether TT, FM, aux, whatever, will be equalized.
I know I posted I had no sound with the reciever tape monitor buttons depressed but I went back and tried it again and now I have sound through tape monitor 2ch-1 which is what I have the EQ ran to on the reciever. I must have had another switch pressed or not, I don't know. But it has sound now. So I assume now with the tape monitor pushed in with sound, the EQ line switched on, I did notice a sound difference and also adjusting the gain slide levers it now changes volumes from left to right. This correct I assume?
With EQ's, less is usually more.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Wait, what, manual? You got it working, men don't read manuals, they play with the knobs switches buttons and dials until it blows up or they get the sound just right.
Glad to see you are looking into the info on your unit and learing about sound so you can use your eq effectively.
along with that less is more attitude, lowering the sound to make the ones nearby sound higher is better than raising the one. But all the sliders are there for you to tailor the sound to what you want. But less is more.
Hey cut me some slack. I had one of those days. Then had a wtf moment when I opened the manual. I think my brain, what there is left of it, was hell bent on puting that turntable between the EQ and reciever. That sent me off in some pointless direction. It's all on me. The Sansui marks things a little different than the Marantz which is 2240 which has friggin buttons for buttons. So yeah the manual helped. But you guys did too.