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Hmmm - makes a big deal about separate buttons (not buried menus) for many functions on the Nikon, but my Canon (5D Mk IV) also has separate buttons for these functions, they're just in different locations. But maybe he was comparing to a different Canon model at a comparable price point that has fewer dedicated buttons?
 
My basic take on this is that for stills the Nikon bodies are clearly better, especially when comparing the lower end crop sensor cameras. Canon's sensor tech is lagging and they haven't made a body that people have been genuinely excited about in a long time. Having said that, since cameras in general have gotten so good the average user probably won't notice much difference. If you want decent video AF then you kind of have to go with Canon or get the new Nikon mirrorless bodies. No Nikon DSLR has useable video AF.
 
I have no personal comparison of Canon and Nikon lenses either at similar or different price points. I can say that the two particular Canon lenses I bought (mid-range in 2009, high end this year) show a definite difference. My sample of one brand at two different price points and different years isn't very scientific, just means I am happy with the upgrade. So, I would take his word for his experience but also look for some other commenters if I were trying to decide what to buy.
 
Auto focus seems to be what is touted on cameras now days. And the different systems work fine, some better than others for certain things. What I find irritating, and frustrating is many fairly expensive feature laden cameras provide no way to turn it off for completely manual focus. Set against manual F and shutter speed manual focus provides control over depth of field placement, auto focus gets in the way. Any suggestions for a decent camera with complete manual control over these functions? I have almost come to resent auto focus. And batteries... I prefer AA to manufacture specific battery packages.
 
Auto focus seems to be what is touted on cameras now days. And the different systems work fine, some better than others for certain things. What I find irritating, and frustrating is many fairly expensive feature laden cameras provide no way to turn it off for completely manual focus. Set against manual F and shutter speed manual focus provides control over depth of field placement, auto focus gets in the way. Any suggestions for a decent camera with complete manual control over these functions? I have almost come to resent auto focus. And batteries... I prefer AA to manufacture specific battery packages.

Are you wanting suggestions other than DSLRs? You can have full manual control over everything if you use many Nikons, esp if you use older AI or AIs lens. It's as if you are using an old, fully manual SLR film camera.

Not than expensive to get set up either. Nikon D80 or D90 and a couple lens. My suggestion would be the 55mm f3.5 or 2.8.
 
Are you wanting suggestions other than DSLRs? You can have full manual control over everything if you use many Nikons, esp if you use older AI or AIs lens. It's as if you are using an old, fully manual SLR film camera.

Not than expensive to get set up either. Nikon D80 or D90 and a couple lens. My suggestion would be the 55mm f3.5 or 2.8.
Yes, that is exactly what I want... DSLR or others. Yes, as if using an old, fully manual SLR film camera, if desired. Thank you for the suggestions, will definitely look at them. I am camera shopping. When looking at different camera's on line the specifications do not seem to show the focus as having the full manual option. Been looking at up to $1000 range. I have a several years old now Nikon that does not allow for full manual focus... and has priority settings for F or shutter speed but not completely manually independent of each other. Takes good pictures though but I have need for complete manual settings.
 
I wasn't aware of any DSLR that doesn't offer manual focus (?) In Canon DSLRs, the switch is on the lens. If you're looking at cameras without interchangeable lenses, then I don't know what the situation is.
 
Yeah I thought all DSLR's provided full manual focus ability? I will say that if that's something you plan to use a lot it's worth looking for a camera with a dedicated AF/MF switch - many of the cheaper crop sensor bodies don't. Personally what I do is set up a user mode for back button focus. That way I have the back button for AF if I need it but basically have full MF control otherwise.

@spicer What camera are you using?
 
I did not notice the date of the article ether : Heads up for that. though it catches me out every time on YouTube. I think I found something new and its only new to me.

Did read another point of view on the subject via Tec Radar will share with you

https://www.techradar.com/news/canon-vs-nikon I swapped a tablet For a Nikon D80 today I'm not a film maker so no AV dose not bother me. Feels lovely in the hand and is a totally different weight than my beloved Lumix FZ-200
 
I did not notice the date of the article ether : Heads up for that. though it catches me out every time on YouTube. I think I found something new and its only new to me.

Did read another point of view on the subject via Tec Radar will share with you

https://www.techradar.com/news/canon-vs-nikon I swapped a tablet For a Nikon D80 today I'm not a film maker so no AV dose not bother me. Feels lovely in the hand and is a totally different weight than my beloved Lumix FZ-200

That's also got to be a very old take if it's mentioning a D80.
 
My wife has Nikon. My daughter has Canon. I prefer the Canon when I grab one for snaps.

For film, we use a Canon T-90. A tank.

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i bought a Minolta 7000 in 1985 i think it was first auto focus SLR. lovely camera at the time. I was photographing Trains. I loved Night photography. I lived near a railway station. I go down and play with the camera. I took these f22/ 40secs used the flash of camera firing the test button into the wheels of the locomotive . I went a bit overboard with the top one the class 47 diesel. The bottom photo is Castle Carry in Somerset which i rather like.

All my photos sadly look the same. Because I was confined to one spot. Other things were happening and I lost the interest. I think CB radio took over my interests. Cant Believe the Minolta 7000 34 years old
 

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Yeah I thought all DSLR's provided full manual focus ability? I will say that if that's something you plan to use a lot it's worth looking for a camera with a dedicated AF/MF switch - many of the cheaper crop sensor bodies don't. Personally what I do is set up a user mode for back button focus. That way I have the back button for AF if I need it but basically have full MF control otherwise.

@spicer What camera are you using?
Hi. Thank you for the response. I have a Nikon, not with me to provide the model. I was very familiar with film SLR cameras, used one extensively in the eighties. I was not even really aware of what the term actually meant, had forgotten, but I looked it up and realize the Nikon I have is not an SLR, screen viewfinder... looks like it, looks like it has exchangeable lens, but it doesn't. It's almost manual but it isn't. Takes four AA batteries which influenced me when I bought it. Anyway, no manual override for focus. Am willing to spend up to a thousand dollars but was given good advice that it can be had for much less, especially used. Any recommendations are appreciated, new or used.
 
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