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Did he mention that it's NEVER BEEN TURNED ON?
Uh, yeah...

Problem is that it's nearly impossible to prove that statement. And there's flaky white material on a few of the knobs- but the "unit is BRAND NEW!"

Sorry, but NEW to me means untarnished- and you'd better TURN IT ON at least once to prove it works...LIKE NEW!
 
Did he mention that it's NEVER BEEN TURNED ON?
Uh, yeah...

Problem is that it's nearly impossible to prove that statement. And there's flaky white material on a few of the knobs- but the "unit is BRAND NEW!"

Sorry, but NEW to me means untarnished- and you'd better TURN IT ON at least once to prove it works...LIKE NEW!

"New" means "New" - it doesn't mean "mint." A lot of those 50s knobs develop that white crud, is part of the plastic chemicals outgassing and reacting to the air. It's easy to clean off and doesn't seem to do anything harmful to the plastic.
 
...and you'd better TURN IT ON at least once to prove it works...LIKE NEW!

Excellent point. Someone should ask this question. Does it work? Do you provide full refund including shipping if it arrives DOA? My bet would be that the seller doesn't share the answer on that one.
 
Agreed, the white stuff on the knobs is a non issue. They could be brand new/unused and it would still develop on them. Eico seems particularly bad in this respect, though I've seen it happen to other brands.
 
Excellent point. Someone should ask this question. Does it work? Do you provide full refund including shipping if it arrives DOA? My bet would be that the seller doesn't share the answer on that one.

i would not ask him to turn it on because after you do that it is no longer considered nos.besides even turning on a peice of gear that old thats never been use can have problems like dried out caps etc and it could very well go boom once plugged in. i'd rather have a nice example that has been untouched that has been in use than a nib unit .just my .02cents cdn.
 
i would not ask him to turn it on because after you do that it is no longer considered nos.besides even turning on a peice of gear that old thats never been use can have problems like dried out caps etc and it could very well go boom once plugged in. i'd rather have a nice example that has been untouched that has been in use than a nib unit .just my .02cents cdn.

Agree but only for the second reason, because of the possible damage.

For what it's worth I did not say I would ask him to turn it on. I would ask him "If it worked". If he says "no", or "how can I know", and he post that answer then it raises questions for bidders. If he says "yes" he has just contradicted himself therefore raising questions for bidders. It was more about the questions putting the seller in a dilemma than asking him to turn it on.

Anway, as suggested by others unless he knows for a fact it's history he can't really claim NOS or that it's never been turned on, for me all he can say is it looks like new. He can say looks like new but he's not pugging it in for fear of causing a problem and I'd be fine with that. But I'd also take the possibility that it's a door stop into account when bidding.... although a very attractive doorstop.:yes:
 
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sometimes it's hard with built gear to trueley know if its nos unless the box is sealed with factory tape.the other way isif it was a kit and the box was opened to show all the parts in the original packaging etc and that would say it all.also the seller only has 2 pictures and no where in the auction does he mention have the original box manuals etc... this would raise big red flags to me so mabe a person should ask him if he has those.bigg deal if the cord is nicely wrapped up . this auction stinks imho the more i look at it and read it .
 
It's impossible to tell whether it's NOS or not. I have two of these, both look as good or better than this one. Better pictures may help the seller's case...
 
Especially if he refuses to take the cage off to see if any tubes have been replaced or if its a factory wired unit or a kit. Sorry, thats like selling a car and claiming its all original and refusing to take photos of the engine or the interior.
 
Boy, Back in the day you had great stores on Canal Street, You could get anything
you wanted, so if he said NOS I'm sure he's right.
 
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