MetalDaze
Active Member
I've had several pairs of their box speakers upgraded. This previously was just a rebuilt woofer and SBA which they do in house. Had been good stuff.
Recently I got a pair of i's from e*ay (unknown to me at the time -apparently they wanted to buy them but the seller continued with the auction. And I purchased them). +1 for a bad start.
I ran through the upgrades for them, and got the drivers which had blown updated. I gave them a pass - but I can not remain silent any longer about this.
The tweeters were Wavecor units very poorly glued (could see light passing through the gap around the inside hole of the plywood) onto plywood which were then sat ON TOP of the cabinets. Not even modified to fit into the low tweeter hole. They had my cabinets and this is how I got them back. I had to redo the fitment and seal it with foam into the cabinet MYSELF. For what amounted to hundreds of dollars and TWO trips to the factory in Brooklyn. The front high tweeters were also replaced and were a miniature version of the low tweeters. The screws were cockeyed, semi stripped and would not seat flush with the veneers on the fronts. Once again I had to attempt to make it look at least passable.
This is after I brought in the cabinets because I received parts for the mid bass woofer and activators which were broken in shipping, and did not fit in the cab. At all.
Fast forward several months, and I place an order for the subwoofer SBA's. $250 - 5 or 6 phone calls to the factory and 4 months later the SBA's show up. Without the vent adapters. Excellent.
I already have a thread here with the SBA install but It doesn't matter.
4 more phone calls to the factory, another 8 weeks pass and the "vent adapter" arrives:
A PVC flared tube which is too small for the actual vent, so they sprayed glue on it (which is all over the inside of 1 'adapter') and wrap it, very poorly, in polystyrene.
Then there's the fitment. Or lack there of:
These speakers are capable of 125dB output, held Ohm's highest rated speaker output until 2013, and blew a candle out at an audio show in the 1980's from 15 feet away!
What in the actual f*ck is stopping these extremely crappy and loose fitting 'adapters' from SHOOTING out of the vent like a potato in a launcher??
Needless but I'll say it anyway. This is atrocious. I mean why advertise to your customers you still offer service on your legacy speakers if this is the quality of the work provided. Its sad.
I've advertised and defended their company, A LOT. But seemingly they couldn't care less about me or the passion I have for their products. Only how much $$ they make. I've even arranged for them to purchase 10, yes TEN individual C2 speakers (5 pairs) from a local outside the city. I made them aware of the sale, they bought them and I provided pick up and delivery of the lot for a mere $100 credit (200 miles round trip). I am not affiliated with the company. I just love music. Very obviously to my detriment.
I have to admit to @nolasally I now believe he was right. A shell of a company.
I already use a rythmik sub in my set up. I was waiting for the vent adapters to be the final and small piece to the puzzle. Is it even worth the trouble at this point? I'm done going through the company. I was hoping to find something I could fabricate or 3-D print myself. But I don't even know if it will make that much of a difference, if at all.
Recently I got a pair of i's from e*ay (unknown to me at the time -apparently they wanted to buy them but the seller continued with the auction. And I purchased them). +1 for a bad start.
I ran through the upgrades for them, and got the drivers which had blown updated. I gave them a pass - but I can not remain silent any longer about this.
The tweeters were Wavecor units very poorly glued (could see light passing through the gap around the inside hole of the plywood) onto plywood which were then sat ON TOP of the cabinets. Not even modified to fit into the low tweeter hole. They had my cabinets and this is how I got them back. I had to redo the fitment and seal it with foam into the cabinet MYSELF. For what amounted to hundreds of dollars and TWO trips to the factory in Brooklyn. The front high tweeters were also replaced and were a miniature version of the low tweeters. The screws were cockeyed, semi stripped and would not seat flush with the veneers on the fronts. Once again I had to attempt to make it look at least passable.
This is after I brought in the cabinets because I received parts for the mid bass woofer and activators which were broken in shipping, and did not fit in the cab. At all.
Fast forward several months, and I place an order for the subwoofer SBA's. $250 - 5 or 6 phone calls to the factory and 4 months later the SBA's show up. Without the vent adapters. Excellent.
I already have a thread here with the SBA install but It doesn't matter.
4 more phone calls to the factory, another 8 weeks pass and the "vent adapter" arrives:
A PVC flared tube which is too small for the actual vent, so they sprayed glue on it (which is all over the inside of 1 'adapter') and wrap it, very poorly, in polystyrene.
Then there's the fitment. Or lack there of:
These speakers are capable of 125dB output, held Ohm's highest rated speaker output until 2013, and blew a candle out at an audio show in the 1980's from 15 feet away!
What in the actual f*ck is stopping these extremely crappy and loose fitting 'adapters' from SHOOTING out of the vent like a potato in a launcher??
Needless but I'll say it anyway. This is atrocious. I mean why advertise to your customers you still offer service on your legacy speakers if this is the quality of the work provided. Its sad.
I've advertised and defended their company, A LOT. But seemingly they couldn't care less about me or the passion I have for their products. Only how much $$ they make. I've even arranged for them to purchase 10, yes TEN individual C2 speakers (5 pairs) from a local outside the city. I made them aware of the sale, they bought them and I provided pick up and delivery of the lot for a mere $100 credit (200 miles round trip). I am not affiliated with the company. I just love music. Very obviously to my detriment.
I have to admit to @nolasally I now believe he was right. A shell of a company.
I already use a rythmik sub in my set up. I was waiting for the vent adapters to be the final and small piece to the puzzle. Is it even worth the trouble at this point? I'm done going through the company. I was hoping to find something I could fabricate or 3-D print myself. But I don't even know if it will make that much of a difference, if at all.
). The smart move is "Designed in USA. Made in China.", unfortunately that supply chain doesn't make economic sense unless you have decent volume, which is hard to achieve if most people have never heard of your brand. Plus it assumes you have the capital to do the design (and, most importantly, the design for manufacturing) work in the first place.
