Old speakers with high quality AVR
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Pretty much my point about saying older is better
And I get some like Kabuki speakers. I have just never heard any I liked.
CJ Payne
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I agree, I didn't mean to sound like I was saying older is better either, more so that if you want high sound quality, you have more variety to choose from and at a lower cost (usually) with vintage. But it has been mentioned that the vintage market is starting to spike, which I find to be true.
Business consolidation an monopolizing has impacted this too. Harmon is not the company it once was, and now encompasses JBL, AKG, Infinity, HK, DBX and others; VOXX owns Klipsch, Jamo, AR, RCA, Mac Audio, has it's feet in Pioneer and Onkyo; those all used to be independently owned and competed with each other, striving to make better products so they wouldn't...you know...get bought out by a parent company...
Independent speaker companies like B&W and Vandersteen are disappearing fast...and that causes their price to be high too.
Business consolidation an monopolizing has impacted this too. Harmon is not the company it once was, and now encompasses JBL, AKG, Infinity, HK, DBX and others; VOXX owns Klipsch, Jamo, AR, RCA, Mac Audio, has it's feet in Pioneer and Onkyo; those all used to be independently owned and competed with each other, striving to make better products so they wouldn't...you know...get bought out by a parent company...
Independent speaker companies like B&W and Vandersteen are disappearing fast...and that causes their price to be high too.
And new “Made in the USA” ones are taking there place, most make affordable products. As an example It’s becoming a thing in Utah.
But this is for another thread
swechsler
Frog Whisperer
That's a bit of an overgeneralization; however, most of the good tweeters back then were expensive horns. Soft domes hadn't been invented yet (1967; although before then there were hard domes, used by AR and Fisher, probably others as well). The Dynaco A25 was one of the first popular speakers to use a soft dome.
CJ Payne
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Also how far back are we talking for tweeters to not be good? By the 70's there were very good tweeters. I have some Infinity's with the EMIT tweeters that are awesome, and they're very much considered "vintage". My '66 Wharfedale W70C's do have a more mild sound, but I have 70's realistic super tweets on top of them and they are almost too bright.
It could also be that the paper cone tweeters of the 60's sounded great then when newly manufactured, but age and humidity have softened the tone of them over the last 50-60 years.
It could also be that the paper cone tweeters of the 60's sounded great then when newly manufactured, but age and humidity have softened the tone of them over the last 50-60 years.
Yeah, it used to be Harman
As for the OP, I have a pair of JBL 18Ti hooked up to a Marantz SR5003 (not a current production model, but probably less than 10 years old) and I think it's a great pairing.
I think “can be a better value” is a better way of saying it now that old crap prices are crazy. Most my stuff is old but I have new inexpensive stuff that there is no way you could come near it’s SQ for the money when I started becoming a buyer 40yrs ago.
Jamo C-103's for $129
Jamo C-109's for $398 lol, both absolutely ridiculous pricing.
sure these were rare sales, but it shows modern speakers can be purchased cheaply if patient and at the right place at the right time.
I just forget the audience here sometimes
I am about 95% sure these are going in the new house.
https://tektondesign.com/product/full-range-speakers/full-towers/the-perfect-set-15/#color
I just forget the audience here sometimes
I am about 95% sure these are going in the new house.
https://tektondesign.com/product/full-range-speakers/full-towers/the-perfect-set-15/#color
color?
Orange or Blue... will probably decide that when we pull the trigger.
A bit, but a lot of tweeters we're too bright, too soft, and/or had horrible dispersion patterns. There were some decent ones out there, but it's an area of great improvement.
I just forget the audience here sometimes
I am about 95% sure these are going in the new house.
https://tektondesign.com/product/full-range-speakers/full-towers/the-perfect-set-15/#color
Do they come with a pair of blinders so you dont have to look at them???? Good Lord, they may sound good but are searingly ugly.
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And when are 180 degrees apart on that opinion
And if your doing, it go Orange
Are you going to hear them first?
I wonder how many people just proclaim old stuff is better without having ever tried new affordable stuff
I am sure that number is pretty high on here.
That cuts both ways. There are folks who regularly proclaim old audio equipment is inferior across the board to new equipment.
Nope
That’s the great thing about being in this hobby now. I can try them in my space with my system and send them back if I don’t like them
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I know, and I am neither
old nor new?I know, and I am neither
Well more older than new
Pretty sure I am on the downhill slide part of things now.
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