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Orbit U-Turn opinions

I also recommend digital if budget is limited. Too bad there were no digital recorders in 1950s. Original tapes from that era are long gone too, so no new releases possible. This leaves me with no other choice but try to get best player for these 60 years old LPs still in circulation.

I honestly don't think many records from 60 plus years ago are going to be minty enough to produce accurately anyways. Even good examples of hugely popular artists like Buddy Holly etc. have plenty of hiss and pop. More obscure music will be even worse due to the smaller production numbers. Many original recordings from popular artists of the 50's and 60's were well preserved and have been remastered well. Keeping in mind that in the 50's and 60's the vast majority of people weren't listening to their new records on great equipment either. I think the hiss and pop of original records from the era of part of the charm. I have a few Deccalite 78's from the post war era that hiss and pop away, all part of the charm, the story of that record. What do you like to listen to? What kind of source vinyl are you getting a hold of that matches the quality of your player? I think your record player is really cool, might even invest in a PL-L1000 if I ever come across one, but the player is only half the equation, what quality sources are you getting? At the end of the day, considering that 1) most old vinyl that isn't available in high quality reproduction very likely won't be pristine, 2) what was popular since is available in good to great quality digitally, and 3) too much new vinyl not being mastered very well imho (a lot of vinyl now being mastered from digital sources smh), the question remains: what is really so wrong with the Orbit U-Turn for $178?
 
I also recommend digital if budget is limited. Too bad there were no digital recorders in 1950s. Original tapes from that era are long gone too, so no new releases possible. This leaves me with no other choice but try to get best player for these 60 years old LPs still in circulation.

Not that many important '50s tapes are lost.
 
Not that many important '50s tapes are lost.

Probably ALL are lost. At best there is copy of a copy in archive. Before late 1960s magnetic tape quality didn't allow keeping them for more than 10-20 years before full degradation. In rare cases either acetate master or optical recording on film is available - they could survive all these years.
 
Probably ALL are lost. At best there is copy of a copy in archive. Before late 1960s magnetic tape quality didn't allow keeping them for more than 10-20 years before full degradation. In rare cases either acetate master or optical recording on film is available - they could survive all these years.

Are you making this stuff up?

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Ordered the basic with the AT cartridge. Going to put the 2M red on it and Orbit is sending the required weighted magnet. So question is, am I going to hear an improvement with the Ortofon? Think I would... Then in a while an upgrade to the Blue
 
Ordered the basic with the AT cartridge. Going to put the 2M red on it and Orbit is sending the required weighted magnet. So question is, am I going to hear an improvement with the Ortofon? Think I would... Then in a while an upgrade to the Blue
I personally think the cheapie AT sounds better than the Ortofon Red. A Shibata stylus for the AT would be cheaper and MUCH easier to replace on the U-Turn than swapping carts. I've found my happy spot with the HE aftermarket stylus. It just sounds stunning to me. All of the 440-MLa's tracking ability without the brightness.
 
I personally think the cheapie AT sounds better than the Ortofon Red. A Shibata stylus for the AT would be cheaper and MUCH easier to replace on the U-Turn than swapping carts. I've found my happy spot with the HE aftermarket stylus. It just sounds stunning to me. All of the 440-MLa's tracking ability without the brightness.

No debate on that. But as I posted I'm going to end up with the Ortofon blue, not stay with the red. Can get a red for 50 bucks so cheap enough. Then later a blue stylus
 
Had my Orbit Plus quite some time now. Ordered mine with the Ortofon OM 5E, now using an Ortofon Super OM 10. It is simply a great sounding table. I have not had any trouble whatsoever with it. I still prefer my Pioneer PL-570 with the Denon DL-110 mostly because it's auto. I would not hesitate to recommend the Orbit to anyone.

Mike
 
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