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Other styli for the AT12Sa

I’m wondering about the styli options for an Audio Technica AT12Sa cartridge.

Most places I’ve looked, people say the the AT13, 14 or 15 won’t fit, but then I saw someone saying that one of the 14 versions actually does fit. So can anyone with actual experience verify one or the other?

I had the original shibata stylus for the AT12Sa, and while it tracked eminently, I personally prefer a bit more body to the sound (especially with my Luxman R-1040 receiver, and I just came from a Shure M75, which of course didn’t track like a star, but had a very pleasant warmth). I sold the shibata and now only a have an extremely cheap generic spherical or conical. Is there a stylus for the 12Sa that comes at least somewhere close to the refinement of the shibata, but has a little more body and/or bass?

Someone somewhere said he preferred the ATN12XE to the Sa, but I would love to hear some more opinions on that or other options. Or if one the 13/14/15 actually fits, would any one of then suit me better?

I should add that I’m on a Luxman PD 282, medium mass arm (14g, I think).


you may want to try one of the JICO replacements.

 
I'd try 1.7 g for a start.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
Another question Manfred if you don’t mind… the recommended vtf for the original VM3-5D stylus (white/ivory colour with gold-ish AT logo) seems to be 1-2g. Is that correct? Seems a little low for a conical. I would have guessed 2-3g.
 
Another question Manfred if you don’t mind… the recommended vtf for the original VM3-5D stylus (white/ivory colour with gold-ish AT logo) seems to be 1-2g. Is that correct?

You must be confusing something there, 'cause the colour of the plastic holder of the VM3-5D is yellow. But, yes, 1 to 2 g (1.5 g suggested) should be correct for the VM3-5D, although I'm also aware of a slightly different, probably older spec (1 to 2.5 g (1.8 g suggested)).

Anyway, have a pic or two of your white needle, maybe? Because if that doesn't sport a tapered cantilever, but a totally straight one with open front (and the stone inserted not perpendicular), it might be one of the pretty rare VM3-6Ws.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
 
You must be confusing something there, 'cause the colour of the plastic holder of the VM3-5D is yellow. But, yes, 1 to 2 g (1.5 g suggested) should be correct for the VM3-5D, although I'm also aware of a slightly different, probably older spec (1 to 2.5 g (1.8 g suggested)).

Anyway, have a pic or two of your white needle, maybe? Because if that doesn't sport a tapered cantilever, but a totally straight one with open front (and the stone inserted not perpendicular), it might be one of the pretty rare VM3-6Ws.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated. I will try to attach a photo now..
 

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Yup, that should be a VM3-6W. Probably an earlier exemplar - a later one would have a black "audio-technica" imprint plus black AT logo above instead.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
 
Yup, that should be a VM3-6W. Probably an earlier exemplar - a later one would have a black "audio-technica" imprint plus black AT logo above instead.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
Thanks Manfred. When I bought it, it was described as a 5D. It sounds very good actually but now I also need to find a 0.5mil to try
 
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