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philips 212 vs ?

As the proud owner of 30 year old equipment I never considered that the rule of my electronics and speakers applied to turntables as well. Blame it on the glossy photos of the new stuff and mechanical nature of turntables, bame it on a misspent youth, blame it on the 1970's!

My father in law has a dust collecting automatic tt that is heading my way this week, I will post it's model for your feedbck and perhaps that can be the new home of the grado. I am settling on a shure or ortofon in that 200 range.
 
It looks like the ortofon blue and the stanton 681 eee mk111 are in the 200 budget. i don't see anything from shure. with sansui electronics and bright heresy speakers on the 212 anything else I should consider? I am looking for a fairly flat accurate cartridge.
thanks to all for the great info and talking me down from the glossy new is better attack. i will stick with the 212 and upgrade the cartridge.
 
So far Ortofon cart has been the best choice for me with the 212. AT cartridges also work great with a 212 or 312, a bit on the bright side. The M97xe on both my 212 and 312 has been a disappointment, dull and lifeless but yet it's my favorite cart when coupled with a TT that has a heavier arm like my sl-1500.
 
I'm using an older Ortofon M15 special and it just sounds sweet when on the 212. I have heard the OM series is also a great match for the Philips light tonearm.
 
I had been considering an AT440mla on my Philips 212. Can anyone elaborate on, especially, stylistic and performance differences between that one and an Ortofon cart for my Philips TT?

Thanks

Luke
 
Actually, that AF-887 table appears to use the same tone arm as my AF-829, a table I've had and used regularly since 1981. In fact, I still use the original belt as it still plays nice and steady.

Julian Hirsch, in his review of the AF-829 noted that the table did an outstanding job of tracking on warped records. Pair it up with a Shure M97 xE and put the brush down, and it'll track just about anything very nicely (this is what I use as a matter of fact, though I usually have the brush up).

Other features I like about this line of Philips turntables include:

- The built-in stylus force gauge which makes setting your tracking force incredibly easy
- Separate anti-skating adjustments for spherical and elliptical styli
- Oh, and it still sounds, like, totally, rilly, rilly good
 
Years ago I had a BO on the 212 and it was very happy. Do you think the ortofon 2m red or blue series is to bright? how about the stanton 681? Goldring gl 2200? After my grado experience I want to look carefully prior to the leap.
 
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