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Pilot 402 amplifier. info?

yeah it looks just like that. the console is a different model though. TT needs lubing. speakers are paper but sound nice at low levels. i gutted it immediately so I wouldn't get attached to it, (since my dad wasnt allowed to have it).

my brother took the cabinet and is now refinishing it and making it into a small bar. its nice cherry wood I guess.

mine also came with all the schematics and certificates, so if you need any help let me know

*weeping*

I'm pretty sure my grandmother had that exact same console in her office, and hers too had all the paperwork with it. Had a Garrard turntable IIRC. The sound out of that thing was phenomenal to my young ears compared to everything else that I'd heard. One year I made up some decent quality patch cables (this was many years before anyone had ever heard of BJC or Monoprice or the internet for that matter) so she could hook up a tape deck or CD player (which were new and exciting) to it.

That was one of the few things that I'd asked if I could have when she was done with it, but when she passed away unexpectedly I was going through a rough patch (my fiancee had just left me and we were selling our house; I was living in a friend's basement at the time) and also since it was unexpected I had to take what I wanted in one trip with my old Jeep Cherokee so sadly I was able to get neither the Pilot console nor the stack of 78s she had.

That exact console (and the similar Magnetbox unit that was my grandmother's "main" system in the living room - which oddly I always considered good but slightly inferior to the Pilot) is the one item primarily responsible for my interest in getting good quality audio gear. i'd never heard bass reproduced so well as I did on those two, from far newer (this was the 1970s) stacks of equipment. To be fair, the stuff that my parents owned was pretty low end and I don't recall having any friends whose parents were into hi-fi.

I don't know if it really stacks up well to modern equipment or if my memory is a little rose colored, but I really would love to have that console...
 
Hi Mech,

Nice to be back. Thanks for the welcome. Regarding my Pilot 402, I may of been mistaken about the Transformer being bad. It's the two (for lack of a better description due to lack of knowledge on my part) the two "silver looking Can thingys" next to/on the side of the Transformer. My tech guy (years ago) marked these "NG".
Since it's been some three years, I can't recall what was need for repair however, it was going to be a fairly expensive project and not "that" important at the time.
We shall see.

Regards,
SixCats!
 
Sounds like capacitors, you should be able to replace those although if they are large they may not be inexpensive.

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Hi N8,

Possible. Problem is, I have waaaaay too many projects happening at once. Presently, my PILOT AA-903 (EL-84) Mono Integrated Amp is being serviced as well as my HEATHKIT A-9C Integrated Mono Amp. I also have a SCOTT 222D that may be in need of a "tune up/service" and an all original (Unmolested) FISHER 400 Tube Receiver I'd like Craig to go through some day. Now, I only need money! Thanks N8.

Regards,
SixCats!
 
Hi mech,

Believe it or not, I STILL have my (needed to be repaired) Pilot 402 Tube Receiver sitting in my Basement. I recently inquired about having this Pilot (re-furbished) and I was told it would cost upwards of five hundred dollars. Ugggh. I "may" (in the future) consider having this Amp rebuilt. As it is now, I have three other Stereo (Tube) Amps I am using. A FISHER 400 (refurbished and awesome) a circa 1960's Realistic SAF-40B Tube Integrated Amp (refurbished) and an ALLIED 333 Tube Receiver (also refurbished). In addition, I have several MONO Tube Amps, a (new to me) Custom 2A3 SET Mono Amp, a Heathkit A-9C Mono Amp (refurbished) and a Pilot 1030D (EL 84) Mono Amp (refurbished). Oooh, I almost forgot, a FISHER 500 MONO Tube Receiver (refurbished). I enjoy them all however, it's difficult to use them all, all the time. Still, I'm wondering how that PILOT 402 (if I have refurbished) might sound/performance compared to today's NEW (dear I say) Boutique Amps ? Five hundred dollars (while not Chump change per se) is not a lot of money to invest to own a nice working (Classic) Tube Amp/Receiver. This being said, I've been also entertaining the possibility of a future purchase of a SET (Zen UFO) Stereo Amp. Oooh, what to do ? What to do ?

SixCats!
 
If it makes you feel any better I actually bought the parts to replace the big can caps in my Scott 340B (there's a dead short in the PS section) and also as many of the electrolytics as I could puzzle out between the actual unit and the schematic.

That was two years ago...
 
Hi N8,

Ugggh, yea, I hear you. Still, I'm tempted to have the Pilot 402 refurbished (some day) maybe. However, I'd really like to try a Flea Power Stereo SET Amp.

SixCats!
 
@SixCats! , did you pull the trigger on the Zen UFO?
I have both a Pilot 492 & a SE84DIY point to point.

Both are very good. The Pilot is musical and very detailed as is the SE84. I would say they are so close in sound that you don’t need one of each. Amazing how great the little opt sound on both of these.

The SQ of my $40 Pilot 402 is what made me sell my KT88SE. It has the power advantage & gets more bass out of my 3Pi horns, but still has some spacial queues like a SE amp. I’d encourage you to refurb it before making any decisions, but $500 is TOO much.

I recently built a 6B4 direct coupled SE amp and it is only slightly better than the SE84. For 1/3 the cost in parts, the SE84 is a no-brainer.
 
Somehow I ended up with another 402 since I last posted on this thread.

Like the four Pilot amps already here weren't enough.

Funny how that works.
 
I have a 402 that I would really like to restore but it came from a console so it has the loosely fitting faceplate that really has nothing solid to attach to once you remove it from its console. Anyone with one of these console Pilot amps/receivers come up with a neat solution?
 
I made a wood cabinet for my console pull 402. Use the wood surround from the console if you have it. You'll want to secure the amp at the rear of the chassis, because, as you said, the face plate is just a facade, unfortunately.
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There was a Pilot on eBay a while back and the owner had made a bracket.

This is a picture from the listing:

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Has anyone here compared the SQ of a 402 to the SA-232? I've never seen a comparison, but I figure SOMEBODY with a half dozen Pilots could chime in.

I was curious how the larger OPT compared to the mini-OPT on the 402/602. I WILL say that the mini-OPT are surprisingly solid and changed my presupposition that bigger is better.
For example, Maggie and RCA console pulls and the 10watt Edcor SE OPT Decware calls for on the SE84DIY all have pretty small OPT, but full sound.
 
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