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ssmith3046
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Shure V15 III with Jico SAS stylus. I'm amazed at how great this combo sounds every time I play a record. I love it.
KentTeffeteller
Gimpus Stereophilus!
What kind of tonearm and turntable do you own? The Shure works best in low-medium mass tonearms. The Denon works best in medium mass tonearms. The Denon is also Moving Coil and the stylus is not changeable by the user. The Shure is. What music do you like best? Just some things to think about before making the choices. Both are excellent and have great things they do well. :tresbon:
or Grado, Dynavector and Benz.
Sounds like a song: Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme.
Ortofon, Grado, Dynavector and Benz.
But seriously as far as the V15 III and Denon DL-160 you need to listen to both they sound completely different.
wianieq
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Well, at least they sound completely different. I have been using a dl-160 for about six months now. I have enjoyed it well enough. I found a Technics sl1950 at a thrift store for $15 with a Shure V15III minus the stylus. So I decided on the Jico SAS for it and now I'll have both. I kind of had an idea that the Shure should be quite a bit better than the Denon, but it appears from what everyone has been saying that it still just depends. That is kind of why I tried to pose the question that way. I was hoping to avoid the "it depends" answers, but it sounds like those are the actual answers. It will be good because I'll have both.
By the way the table I'm using is a Rotel rs3000.
Thanks for the replies
By the way the table I'm using is a Rotel rs3000.
Thanks for the replies
BrocLuno
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The Shure will do things the Denon won't. All depends on phono stage. With 47K loading the Shure will be very nice but not overwhelming. Bump the loading a bit (with JICO, not much is needed) and it will show it's heels to quite a few cartridges. They are both worthy of a slot in a cartridge library 
wianieq
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Well, I have now been listening to my new Technics 1950 with the V15 III and Jico sas stylus and I love it. It seems more active than the DL160, which sounds much more laid back.
You mentioned upping the load impedance 47k to what? I've read about this somewhere before but I don't recall if it would just be bumped up to something like 63k or 72 or go drastically higher. How would doing that affect the DL160?
I think I have this correct that the impedance is determined by the resistor going from the input jack to ground. Am I right? I have a Cornet2 and I think its the r200 resistor. I attached the schematic.
Another question I have about my turntable is that it came with the multirecord spindle, but the single play spindle is missing. Does anyone know where a replacement can be had? I don't mind the changer, but I noticed that some records with the spindle holes a little to big don't lay out exactly flat on the changer, and then they don't drop, causing the needle to come down on the platter mat and the record possibly on top of it. Hasn't happened to me yet because I sit there ready to put the arm lever up. But I know one day I'm going to walk away from it and I will have to send away for a new stylus.
I guess I have one last question. Technics had a guide for mounting the cartridge the proper distance. I don't have the guide, but I could do it easy enough. I left the cartridge where it was because it seemed pretty well aligned with the protractor I got from Vinyl engine. Would I be better served putting it on straight with the proper distance that Technics recommends or leave it?
Thanks to any and all replies.
You mentioned upping the load impedance 47k to what? I've read about this somewhere before but I don't recall if it would just be bumped up to something like 63k or 72 or go drastically higher. How would doing that affect the DL160?
I think I have this correct that the impedance is determined by the resistor going from the input jack to ground. Am I right? I have a Cornet2 and I think its the r200 resistor. I attached the schematic.
Another question I have about my turntable is that it came with the multirecord spindle, but the single play spindle is missing. Does anyone know where a replacement can be had? I don't mind the changer, but I noticed that some records with the spindle holes a little to big don't lay out exactly flat on the changer, and then they don't drop, causing the needle to come down on the platter mat and the record possibly on top of it. Hasn't happened to me yet because I sit there ready to put the arm lever up. But I know one day I'm going to walk away from it and I will have to send away for a new stylus.
I guess I have one last question. Technics had a guide for mounting the cartridge the proper distance. I don't have the guide, but I could do it easy enough. I left the cartridge where it was because it seemed pretty well aligned with the protractor I got from Vinyl engine. Would I be better served putting it on straight with the proper distance that Technics recommends or leave it?
Thanks to any and all replies.
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