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Record Cleaning - Soap and Water - test results

Slow day at work, so I read all 37 pages of this very old thread.

You guys simply MUST stop bitching at each other.

Jesus, wanna get a great thread closed, or worse, get us all confused with some of the other tight-ass websites??

I use sink method, then use the Spin Clean, if that doesn't get it, I do the Titebond 2 thing, and then a quick spin thru the spin clean once more.

If that isn't good enough, to hell with it. I got better things to do.

I've also used

1) The sink method w/paint pad
2) Overnight soaks with dent pullers
3) 2400 PSI pressure wash for vinyl that had been eaten by termites. No kidding, the pulp they left behind was amazingly binding. I got it off, tho.

Many many ways to skin a cat, and no reason whatsover for the snarky comments.

Let's keep the thread moving forward in a positive manner.

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and i would say with good technique(paint pad, second pass with record cleaning solution, distilled rinse, etc), up to 100%




no surprise you would see positive accounts. People tend to become committed to something they have a vested interest in. But aside from the 'customer involvement' phenomena, commercial record cleaning products do actually work... Something nobody is disputing.

What i don't understand is why you keep pushing the idea that using commercial record cleaning products is the only acceptable method. Or why you seem to suggest that anyone who doesn't use your accepted method is a delusional ignoramus with dumpster-tier albums who simply wants to win people over to their "sink is best" tribe? Who convinced you of that?

exactly.
 
As with everything else in this hobby, people are passionate about the means to the end of listening music. We stick to our individual methods because firstly, they work for us. Or, as someone else said, we've vested some resources into it. Either way, what we have to do is look closely at how we gauge the cleanliness of the record. How can we quantify that the record is indeed clean, not just to our ears, but really clean.
 
I have no problem with anyone using an RCM, they work well and are easy to use.

I simply don't think they do anything that can't be done with the proper cleaning solution, a good scrubbing pad, pure water for rinsing and a good cleaning technique.

I know many suggest the vacuuming does a better job of getting contaminants out of the groove. I submit that my hand held sink sprayer is more effective than a vacuum for getting deposits out of a groove and the special nozzle of the Gem Dandy is even more effective in that regard. A high pressure spray is much more effective than a vacuum cleaner at removing the unwanted.

There's no magic in an RCM, if you believe otherwise, tell us what it is!

Jon

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With the turntable, receiver and speakers ready to go in the man cave the only thing left is to get some records. Following AK advice reading a thread re sink washing records your going to the hardware store to purchase dent pullers, a dish drying rack, paint pads, micro fiber towels and Dawn with your meager allowance. On the way home you have a list of yard/garage sales to hit for records. Mission accomplished with a few dozen records in a cardboard box you arrive home and the wife asks where have you been and what's in the bag and box. Why honey it's record cleaning supplies and used records for my man cave audio system. Well the wife didn't need a nose like a bloodhound to smell the box of records reeking of mildew and cat urine. She asks what do you plan to do with that stuff, your not stinking up the house after I spent all day cleaning on top of doing the supermarket shopping and running the kids around to activities. AK member replies that it will be cheap, quick and easy to clean the records in the kitchen sink as recommended on AK. Wife replies over my dead body, next thing I have start preparing food for dinner so forget about the kitchen sink and counters, OFF LIMITS! Alright lovey I'll go down in the basement and use the laundry tub and folding table to wash the records. Wife replies no bleeping way I'v got clothes, sheets and towels going in the washer and dryer your not going to make a pig pen out of that area either. AK member asks well where can I wash my records? The disgusted wife replies the minivan needs to be washed, you can take your bleeping records out in the driveway and wash them there while you clean the filthy minivan. I figure this could be a realistic episode of "sink washing" for the typical AK member.
 
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With the turntable, receiver and speakers ready to go in the man cave the only thing left is to get some records. Following AK advice reading a thread re sink washing records your going to the hardware store to purchase dent pullers, a dish drying rack, paint pads, micro fiber towels and Dawn with your meager allowance. On the way home you have a list of yard/garage sales to hit for records. Mission accomplished with a few dozen records in a cardboard box you arrive home and the wife asks where have you been and what's in the bag and box. Why honey it's record cleaning supplies and used records for my man cave audio system. Well the wife didn't need a nose like a bloodhound to smell the box of records reeking of mildew and cat urine. She asks what do you plan to do with that stuff, your not stinking up the house after I spent all day cleaning on top of doing the supermarket shopping and running the kids around to activities. AK member replies that it will be cheap, quick and easy to clean the records in the kitchen sink as recommended on AK. Wife replies over my dead body, next thing I have start preparing food for dinner so forget about the kitchen sink and counters, OFF LIMITS! Alright lovey I'll go down in the basement and use the laundry tub and folding table to wash the records. Wife replies no bleeping way I'v got clothes, sheets and towels going in the washer and dryer your not going to make a pig pen out of that area either. AK member asks well where can I wash my records? The disgusted wife replies the minivan needs to be washed, you can take your bleeping records out in the driveway and wash them there while you clean the filthy minivan. I figure this could be a realistic episode of "sink washing" for the typical AK member.

In this very man-unfriendly, misandrist society, perhaps. I enjoyed what you wrote, but please, use some spaces and paragraphs. Got a bit hard to read.

Oh, and I'm guessing spending 300 and up for a RCM wouldn't fly with many wives, either.

My wife is tolerant, but the recent amassing of even more gear has pushed her to "perpetual gripe" status, so this hit home.

Stand fast, boys!:D:smoke:
 
I'm glad I have an understanding wife. I haven't completely taken over the kitchen. Yet. I only wash a few at a time. Usually just the ones I plan on listening to that evening.
 
Maybe she's right and maybe she's wrong but I have to admit the wife is juggling a part time job while the kids are in school, maintain the house, cooking meals and making sure the kids do their homework along with everything else. This sink cleaning thing doesn't look like it's ever going to fly with her. There's got to be a way I can clean my records and not invade her working space. No the bathroom isn't going to work either. Checked back on AK and a few guys are talking about DIY record cleaning machines they assembled for peanuts with an old vacuum cleaner, a crevice tool and discarded turntable, they even mixed their own cleaning fluids. What if I made one and only used it in the man cave she'd have nothing to bitch about. I'll even crank up the music a little to cover the sound of the vacuum so she wont know I'm cleaning records. I might get away with this one and finally enjoy a couple hours of down time in my little audio world after the wife and kids go to bed.
 
Maybe she's right and maybe she's wrong but I have to admit the wife is juggling a part time job while the kids are in school, maintain the house, cooking meals and making sure the kids do their homework along with everything else. This sink cleaning thing doesn't look like it's ever going to fly with her. There's got to be a way I can clean my records and not invade her working space. No the bathroom isn't going to work either. Checked back on AK and a few guys are talking about DIY record cleaning machines they assembled for peanuts with an old vacuum cleaner, a crevice tool and discarded turntable, they even mixed their own cleaning fluids. What if I made one and only used it in the man cave she'd have nothing to bitch about. I'll even crank up the music a little to cover the sound of the vacuum so she wont know I'm cleaning records. I might get away with this one and finally enjoy a couple hours of down time in my little audio world after the wife and kids go to bed.

In your situation, I'd recommend a spin clean, then. No noise, no sink needed.
 
My gf is very cool about all of it.

How the p*#@y rules!
:ntwrthy::lmao:

True this, but once you're married, the p*#@y doesn't really call the shots anymore, yet for me, I still have to step N fetchit.

Marriage is an odd thing. I'm 4 years in, and if I had it to do over again, I'm not sure I would.

Society has morphed and changed so much, I see little advantage. Don't misunderstand, I LOVE my wife, but my b.s. tolerance is only getting worse as I age, and women are rife with b.s.

28 days in the average menstrual cycle, 28 days in the average lunar cycle.

Werewolves? Who can say? :D

any females reading this thread, I put this all down with my tongue firmly in cheek. Please do not take offense. I still love women.

I have a SpinClean, and have really been surprised how well it works. Only a few times have I had to resort to the glue, which, if that doesn't fix it, it can't be fixed.

I did try the goo-gone stuff on a strange dab of white stuff on a Clapton album. Looks just like a tiny drop of superglue. It took a tiny bit off, but really scrubbing with Dawn and a paint pad dislodged more of it. Still a tiny bit on it, I'll try again tonight. DAMN hard to budge. Can't help but wonder if it was a random cigarette ash that actually burned the vinyl or something.
 
There's no magic in an RCM, if you believe otherwise, tell us what it is!

Jon

No magic?! I thought that's how this thing worked!

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I saw a SpinClean video where the announcer said it was good only for cleaning a batch of records at a time. Is this true? Was going to buy one but that put me off since I only clean a few records at atime and most of mine are fairly pristine anyway
 
I saw a SpinClean video where the announcer said it was good only for cleaning a batch of records at a time. Is this true? Was going to buy one but that put me off since I only clean a few records at atime and most of mine are fairly pristine anyway

Nah, you can even leave the fluid in the thing and just do one at a time if you wanted. Only thing is you HAVE to use their fluid, system won't work without it.
 
I love my Spin Clean but just got the Groovmaster today and plan on doing the sink thing this weekend!
 
You should all get divorces or skip town from your old ladies! Then you can do whatever the **** you wanna do! :)
 
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