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Sansui Production

How many amplifiers did Sansui produce montly year 1971

  • 5000

    Votes: 12 38.7%

  • 10000

    Votes: 11 35.5%

  • 15000

    Votes: 4 12.9%

  • 25000

    Votes: 3 9.7%

  • 40000

    Votes: 1 3.2%
  • Total voters
    31
  • Poll closed .
Stene

Stene

The Introducer
I'm sure no one of us didn't know how big Sansui were.
As you can see even the production of Speaker Systems were enormous.

Click on the pic for a cut out of the information I found of production quantities as of document date April 72.
 

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If "amplifiers" means ALL amplifiers made for every product and not just "amplifiers" as in power amps, the the number would go thru the roof. Just think, preamps, power amps, receivers, tape decks, integ. amps., and whatever else an amplifier would go into.

How bout a clarification for "amplifier".
 
oldhifiguy said:
If "amplifiers" means ALL amplifiers made for every product and not just "amplifiers" as in power amps, the the number would go thru the roof. Just think, preamps, power amps, receivers, tape decks, integ. amps., and whatever else an amplifier would go into.

How bout a clarification for "amplifier".
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The information I found just mention amplifier. I guess Power Amps and Integrated Amps. :scratch2:
 
back in 71 it seems 5k units per mo is pretty ambitious in many industries, Everything was hand built, no bots.
So when's the answer?
 
oldhifiguy said:
back in 71 it seems 5k units per mo is pretty ambitious in many industries, Everything was hand built, no bots.
So when's the answer?
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That's exactly what I was thinking when I answered. I mean, they had assembly lines, but the main focus was still on quality, and I doubt if they had a daily "quota" to fill, like they would today.
 
I think ...

Stene said:
This poll will close on 09-19-2007 at 02:59 PM
then I will give the answer :smoke:
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I'm guessing here (I didn't have pre-release info from Stene :no:) but I think that what Stene has found is some actual production info from 'back in the day'. Don't forget, Stene was a Sansui-guy back in the 70's! :thmbsp:

This might prove some of our speculations about production numbers :scratch2:

Paul

PS: Wouldn't it be great if someone was able to secure an original Sansui factory & a production line + all the production tooling, manufacturing diagrams etc.??? Wow, could we have fun! :music:
 
the Number

Morden2004 said:
I'm guessing here (I didn't have pre-release info from Stene :no:) but I think that what Stene has found is some actual production info from 'back in the day'. Don't forget, Stene was a Sansui-guy back in the 70's! :thmbsp:

This might prove some of our speculations about production numbers :scratch2:

Paul

PS: Wouldn't it be great if someone was able to secure an original Sansui factory & a production line + all the production tooling, manufacturing diagrams etc.??? Wow, could we have fun! :music:
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It sure would Paul, I recently got nearly 2 tons of audio manuals, including many Sansui, looking at models I don't have and seeing manuals for items I did not know existed has been a hell of a lot of fun...
I wonder what the unit was they made the most of ever...the 9090?
Maybe the 5000x? or was it the one everyone had, the RA 500 reverb amp?
Casey:scratch2:
 
Sansui

Stene said:
Yes back in 71 everything was hand made and the assembly lines differ from modern designed lines with robots.
See pic from a TR-707 assembling
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Hey, that second gal on the right, she just did a cold solder joint, have that unit sent to my museum for repair!
Casey:banana:
 
I'd have a real hard time believing even all lines in production would be kicking out even the minimum of 5,000/mo. That's 60,000 for the year! Based on some of the S/N data; it doesn't seem at all realistic for just amps, especially in 1971..........:scratch2:
 
This is for world wide consumption. How many stores in the US alone carried Sansui products? If there were 1,000 US stores and each one of them sold only 100 units in a year, (less than 8 per month per store) that would be 100,000 units right there. Now add all of Europe, Asia, Austraila and US military bases.

- Pete
 
LBPete said:
This is for world wide consumption. How many stores in the US alone carried Sansui products? If there were 1,000 US stores and each one of them sold only 100 units in a year, (less than 8 per month per store) that would be 100,000 units right there. Now add all of Europe, Asia, Austraila and US military bases.

- Pete
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Amp Units? In 1971? What are we talking here possibly? AU models and BA models? I don't see ANY BA stuff for that year, so it's just AU then?
 
The database shows serial numbers for 75 AU amps built in 1971. They range from AU-101s to AU-999s. There were some pretty popular amps including the AU-555a and AU-999 built in 1971.

- Pete
 
I have an answer but I cant read it

I have T_H_I_S catalogue, so for sure, that info is written there, but I really cant read it :D

Kale
 
LBPete said:
The database shows serial numbers for 75 AU amps built in 1971. They range from AU-101s to AU-999s. There were some pretty popular amps including the AU-555a and AU-999 built in 1971.

- Pete
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Yeah, that's exactly what I came up with also. The database has identified only these models for 1971:

AU-101
AU-222
AU-555
AU-555A
AU-666
AU-888
AU-999

I'm still thinking no way with the 5000/mo minimum........:no:

If you apply the same '1%' theory from the G-22/33 that has been offered, then that translates into just 7500 in total for the year.

If it turns out to be SUBSTANTIALLY more numbers involved, then I would also expect our G-22/33 total production number guesses might possibly be off by a factor of at least 10 too. So, then it would be more like .1% or even .05%...........
 
I don't think that follows. The AU series were bread and butter amps for Sansui. Look at the serial numbers for these units. They were built in big numbers. The big Gs on the other hand were not mass produced.

Those early AU were very much out of style by the late 1970s and early 1980s and I'm sure a lot of them were just tossed out when the switches got dirty.

- Pete
 
LBPete said:
I don't think that follows. The AU series were bread and butter amps for Sansui. Look at the serial numbers for these units. They were built in big numbers. The big Gs on the other hand were not mass produced.

Those early AU were very much out of style by the late 1970s and early 1980s and I'm sure a lot of them were just tossed out when the switches got dirty.

- Pete
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Good point, Pete, about the disposable factor on the lower end units. Remember, you need to take into account ALL OTHER possible models that might have been built on the same line that particular month when taking into account the real 4-digit serial numbers.

But, look at the number of lines for each particular month. There was at most three lines in production for any particular month. Most months there was only one or two lines involved. There's only 9999 possible TOTAL units that can be produced per line per month.

There's quite a few other Sansui product models being produced on those lines during the 1971 months also (I haven't analyzed those in depth).

Still sayin' even 5000/mo seems a bit optimistic........
 
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