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Shine on You Crazy Diamond. Official Pink Floyd Thread.

Andy Jackson ‎– 73 Days At Sea
DTS 5.1 multichannel mix

"A fascinating album from an interesting character who has been enveloped in the world of Pink Floyd for much of his career.
The surround sound experience continues to demonstrate Jackson’s incredible creative force as an audio engineer. Instruments and vocals are extremely smooth and well balanced throughout the album, delivering an all-encompassing multi-channel aural journey"

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Hi, this might be a good place to ask...
I must finally accept that my copy of Animals, bought in 1977 SHVL815, is just too worn to enjoy. I have noticed that new copies 'in 180g pressing' and 'remastered' are available. I want a copy of the original mix (I'm usually disappointed by remixes and I don't see how Brian Humphries's perfection can be bettered). Would anyone know if the 180 pressings are the same as the original. I've heard and read all sorts of stories about new pressings being mucked about with, or modern engineers trained on digital formats not understanding vinyl cutting machines, analogue headroom, and peak filters and all many of horrid sounding things etc. I would love a new copy, but I don't want to spend £20 only to then have to buy a used one to get the sound I am used to! Am I worrying needlessly?
Thanks.
 
ziggydave said:
Hi, this might be a good place to ask...
I must finally accept that my copy of Animals, bought in 1977 SHVL815, is just too worn to enjoy. I have noticed that new copies 'in 180g pressing' and 'remastered' are available. I want a copy of the original mix (I'm usually disappointed by remixes and I don't see how Brian Humphries's perfection can be bettered). Would anyone know if the 180 pressings are the same as the original. I've heard and read all sorts of stories about new pressings being mucked about with, or modern engineers trained on digital formats not understanding vinyl cutting machines, analogue headroom, and peak filters and all many of horrid sounding things etc. I would love a new copy, but I don't want to spend £20 only to then have to buy a used one to get the sound I am used to! Am I worrying needlessly?
Thanks.
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I have 3 of the reissues Animals ,WYWH, and Pipers and find all three were well done. No issues and sound great. However i don't have originals on vinyl to compare. People get in there head that because they were mastered for Vinyl from the 24 bit Files that they are inferior to the originals. I heard an interview on The Vinyl Guide podcast of Bernie Grundman who did the mastering and he is of the opinion that it is a proper way to do business.
The only way you will ever know is to buy one and hear for yourself. If you don't like it will be easy to resell.
 
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ziggydave said:
Hi, this might be a good place to ask...
I must finally accept that my copy of Animals, bought in 1977 SHVL815, is just too worn to enjoy. I have noticed that new copies 'in 180g pressing' and 'remastered' are available. I want a copy of the original mix (I'm usually disappointed by remixes and I don't see how Brian Humphries's perfection can be bettered). Would anyone know if the 180 pressings are the same as the original. I've heard and read all sorts of stories about new pressings being mucked about with, or modern engineers trained on digital formats not understanding vinyl cutting machines, analogue headroom, and peak filters and all many of horrid sounding things etc. I would love a new copy, but I don't want to spend £20 only to then have to buy a used one to get the sound I am used to! Am I worrying needlessly?
Thanks.
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Newer 2011 pressings are remastered by Bernie Grundman, James Guthrie & Joel Plante. They've been around for a long time with PF, who stick to those who are the best. I've Euro 180g DSOTM and Meddle which seem good. James Guthrie has been mastering PF since The Wall & I like Plante's mastering on later projects since around '89. Bernie's been mastering since the late 60's at A&M.

Reviews on the Euro re-master seem to be pretty good.

https://www.discogs.com/Pink-Floyd-Animals/release/9359985
 
Thanks everyone. Actually, the reviews are hit and miss, or rather, love or hate! Ive downloaded the grundman podcast to listen to later, thanks for the signpost!
 
I'm putting some serious thought into cryogenic freezing.
They can wake me up when the 5.1 multichannel mix of Animals is finally released.

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Johnno_Oz said:
The negative reviews seem to be mostly issues with pressing not mastering.
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This is also true. Not just pressing but packaging and handling. It seems astonishing that a manufacturer would go to all the trouble of investing so heavily in a project like new copies of old media, and not take care of the simple things. But of course, at least one has a right to return a scratched or damaged disc, rather more difficult to say "I just don't like what they have done do the music!" :rolleyes:. Quality control has always been an issue though, I have a copy of The Original Musiquarium that is so badly pressed the edge swings in and out, scarily you have to be real careful when dropping the stylus to avoid dropping onto the platter, and it actually catches the lift on some decks and won't play.

Thank you all for your responses. I am reassured now to buy a new copy of the 2016 release. Thanks for the link!
 
It's arrived, and I must say I feel humbled. First, the quality of the pressing and the care of packaging is perfect, not a fingermark or speck of dust, not surface scratches and perfectly centric, and the sound is astonishing! I will not worry again, thanks for persuading me to try it. I cannot detect any difference at all from the original, except the quality is restored. I am a happy bunny. Cheers everyone. Now I just have the rest of my collection to replace...:(
 
Begging your pardon if this is hopelessly naive or otherwise tone-deaf. I just happened to be surfing through, and thought I would give a thumbs-up to a Pink Floyd tribute band I caught recently:

https://www.themachinelive.com/

I only saw PF live once myself, so I'm no expert, but I was very happy with The Machine's show. They do stick pretty much to the crowd-pleaser material - even encouraging a singalong on "We Don't Need No Education"! - but that's fine, since there is plenty enough of that material to make a tasty and varied show. I mean, heck, I didn't expect to hear "Grantchester Meadows", though I surely wouldn't have objected. (Oh! - and I also didn't expect a Clare Torry emulator on the DSOTM material, and indeed there was not.) Sound was first-rate for an outdoor venue: Northlands in New Hampshire, USA. The Machine's visual presentation seemed tasteful to me, plenty of lights and some smoke, but nothing to really distract too much from the tunes. There were a couple of large video screens showing well-coordinated closeups of the players. Nope, no flying pig :).
 
ziggydave said:
It's arrived, and I must say I feel humbled. First, the quality of the pressing and the care of packaging is perfect, not a fingermark or speck of dust, not surface scratches and perfectly centric, and the sound is astonishing! I will not worry again, thanks for persuading me to try it. I cannot detect any difference at all from the original, except the quality is restored. I am a happy bunny. Cheers everyone. Now I just have the rest of my collection to replace...:(
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Ziggy I missed this. Glad it turned out well. I was in your situation yesterday, threw on an old Harvest DSOTM which was full of some really bad clicks and pops, especially disconcerting during the quieter sections. Ended up putting on the newer quieter 2011 pressing which was much better & seemed a bit more dynamic.
 
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