the-real-mandak
Super Member
Hmm. those wheels look a bit fragile to a stack of that size :scratch2:
But nice stack.
But nice stack.
Show Us Your Sonys!!!
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restorer-john
Addicted Member
130kg, 286 pounds approx, plus the weight of the stand divided by four. The castors can take it, but can the carpet and the floor?!? It may be a little wiggly at the top- but that's a hell of a stand!
I still am getting over the price you paid...bargain.
John
I still am getting over the price you paid...bargain.
John
Did you pick up that CL rack with the pair of TA-N77ES amps? Very nice. If I wasn't listening to the B-2 amps I might well go back to a TA-N77ES. Certainly one of the very best looking amps ever made. If the lamps are out in the meters it is no big deal to fix them They run in series on a long, thin PCB across the top of the meters. If one goes they all go, IIRC. Anyway, a bit of solder wick and some new bulbs and you are in good shape. I even have a spare one of those boards laying around somewhere. If I find I can send it to you. Great gear. Just do a check on the voltages per the sticky on same at the beginning of this forum. Terrific rack.tom1356 said:
Absolutely. AK member dgwojo. He is our bulbmeister. PM him with your needs.
Stoffie
Sony afficionado
Hugely impressive stack tom1356 ! I'd be afraid to topple it, but if you say it's sturdy then it's ok 
How does it sound ?
Glenn:
That might end up being an expensive TA-N7B if you plan to acquire and bring home yours the way you say here, hehe.
I'd be happy to keep one in storage for you might the need arise.
One mod I am still planning on the N7 is to replace the crappy plastic springclip speaker terminals with some solid binding posts, I've already found some that should fit on there nicely without too much hacking or drilling.
Still not sure about the pot on the pre, Mirko called it horror, so hmm... I'd feel more confident if I had some pics of the process of taking it apart.
How does it sound ?
Glenn:
That might end up being an expensive TA-N7B if you plan to acquire and bring home yours the way you say here, hehe.
I'd be happy to keep one in storage for you might the need arise.
One mod I am still planning on the N7 is to replace the crappy plastic springclip speaker terminals with some solid binding posts, I've already found some that should fit on there nicely without too much hacking or drilling.
Still not sure about the pot on the pre, Mirko called it horror, so hmm... I'd feel more confident if I had some pics of the process of taking it apart.
axel
Super Member
tom1356 said:
Very impressive Tom !
(do you need a ladder to swap stations on the tuners ?!)
The N110 should be safe (?) but be sure to leave enough room above the N77ES - seems a little cramped here.
500$ for a TA-F6B (however mint) is nuts.
The speak' terminals on the N7 are small, very small. The N86 in Japan saw a version with much bigger binding posts but the N7 didn't...
Unda Maris
Mr. V-FET
Stoffie,
the word horror is perhaps a little bit too much for the TA-E88B´s pot cleaning, but you should be prepared for one hour per pot. The biggest problem is to get the bearing balls back into place. Nothing impossible to do, but a little bit tricky.
In order to preserve the collector´s value of your unit, you should at least do the modification in a reversible way.
The seller of the currently listed TA-N7B in the UK also sold a second one quite a time ago, which had modified terminals. This was a rather ugly mod and the unit didn´t sell at a high price (I think well below 300 EUR) ...
TA-F6B:
Paying 500 USD for TA-F6B is crazy. What will be the bid on a TA-F7B, 1000 USD ? On German eBay the F6B appears quite often and normally sells for 50..100 EUR, depending on condition. I got mine for 34 EUR, some years ago
Seems that Sony gets more and more accepted among Hifi collectors ...
I can live with that, my basement is already filled up with Sony ...
the word horror is perhaps a little bit too much for the TA-E88B´s pot cleaning, but you should be prepared for one hour per pot. The biggest problem is to get the bearing balls back into place. Nothing impossible to do, but a little bit tricky.
In order to preserve the collector´s value of your unit, you should at least do the modification in a reversible way.
The seller of the currently listed TA-N7B in the UK also sold a second one quite a time ago, which had modified terminals. This was a rather ugly mod and the unit didn´t sell at a high price (I think well below 300 EUR) ...
TA-F6B:
Paying 500 USD for TA-F6B is crazy. What will be the bid on a TA-F7B, 1000 USD ? On German eBay the F6B appears quite often and normally sells for 50..100 EUR, depending on condition. I got mine for 34 EUR, some years ago
Seems that Sony gets more and more accepted among Hifi collectors ...
I can live with that, my basement is already filled up with Sony ...
Stoffie
Sony afficionado
I am definitely not going to butcher the unit, in order to install better wiring terminals. I'll order what I have in mind, and see how I can fit them without making a massacre 
Have been listening to my refurbed N7 all afternoon and evening. I've been able to crank it up a bit and I am in love. No matter what you throw at it, jazz, classical, 70 or 80's rock, bigband stuff, funk, metal, trip hop and hip hop... it's the perfect performer for me!
I have to say at first everything seemed a bit bright, but that went away after it warmed up, now it just sounds crystalclear, with wonderful midrange, and exceptional bass control.
I have to say that's what amazed me most, how much bass was dug up by my KEF IQ5's when connected to the N7, who always seemed to be a bit lacking in that department when connected to my 5.1 amp. Lots of tight, tuneful bass, I like how the N7 has so much grip on it !
Very wide soundstage too, and overall a musical performance you can listen to hour after hour. I'm loving it !
My units are still residing on the floor until I can afford myself a decent rack that is deserving of my precious Sony units
Have been listening to my refurbed N7 all afternoon and evening. I've been able to crank it up a bit and I am in love. No matter what you throw at it, jazz, classical, 70 or 80's rock, bigband stuff, funk, metal, trip hop and hip hop... it's the perfect performer for me!
I have to say at first everything seemed a bit bright, but that went away after it warmed up, now it just sounds crystalclear, with wonderful midrange, and exceptional bass control.
I have to say that's what amazed me most, how much bass was dug up by my KEF IQ5's when connected to the N7, who always seemed to be a bit lacking in that department when connected to my 5.1 amp. Lots of tight, tuneful bass, I like how the N7 has so much grip on it !
Very wide soundstage too, and overall a musical performance you can listen to hour after hour. I'm loving it !
My units are still residing on the floor until I can afford myself a decent rack that is deserving of my precious Sony units
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Unda Maris
Mr. V-FET
TA-N7B + TA-E88B:
Yeah not many people ever heard that combination. I´m happy, that I did and still do from time to time. Especially the TA-N7B is very refreshing, if you think how big the improvements in analog audio amplifiers were over the last 30 years:
Nil, Zero, Null, Nothing, Nada, Nix, Rien !
IMO the TA-N7B isn´t vintage at all, when it comes to sound.
I heard only one amplifier, which is a nuance tighter, and more dynamic up to the highest freqencies, but that ugly little beast outclassed every other commercial amplifier it met so far. If you want to see it, take a look at the appended photos, the black beauty with the thin handles and the stylish coffee machine power switch is it !
Please take a look at some impressions of my freshly modified SCD-777ES and the new self made hifi rack !
The rack was necessary, because my old setup looked like a chaotic black pile of junk, with a huge golden CDP on top of it ... It will have an additional second stage for my PS-8750 turntable, but this is not finished yet.
Yeah not many people ever heard that combination. I´m happy, that I did and still do from time to time. Especially the TA-N7B is very refreshing, if you think how big the improvements in analog audio amplifiers were over the last 30 years:
Nil, Zero, Null, Nothing, Nada, Nix, Rien !
IMO the TA-N7B isn´t vintage at all, when it comes to sound.
I heard only one amplifier, which is a nuance tighter, and more dynamic up to the highest freqencies, but that ugly little beast outclassed every other commercial amplifier it met so far. If you want to see it, take a look at the appended photos, the black beauty with the thin handles and the stylish coffee machine power switch is it !
Please take a look at some impressions of my freshly modified SCD-777ES and the new self made hifi rack !
The rack was necessary, because my old setup looked like a chaotic black pile of junk, with a huge golden CDP on top of it ... It will have an additional second stage for my PS-8750 turntable, but this is not finished yet.
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Very nice work and set-up!!
As always, I'm taking donations of TA-N7B amps. Stock or mod'd. Especially now that you have a coffee machine amp you prefer (what is it?).
As always, I'm taking donations of TA-N7B amps. Stock or mod'd. Especially now that you have a coffee machine amp you prefer (what is it?).
influx
Electronica Rehabilitatus
Yamaha B-2 said:Kristof - Beautiful work!! Makes me wish for a TA-N7B of my own. Will be doing similar things to a B-2 shortly and will try to do as well with the photography on same.
Also, did anyone watch this crazy TA-F6B auction? Two nutty bidders and one happy seller. Or, was it worth it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEDW:IT&viewitem=&item=190077438659&rd=1&rd=1
BTW - There is a TA-E88 listed on eBay. But, I haven't been to Viet Nam since 1969.
This is a little nuts. But I guess if you really want something....? I like mine, but it's not worth 500 bucks. There's so much other good vintage sony or yammie stuff out there. Maybe somebody had a lonely A6B that needed company
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Stoffie
Sony afficionado
Unda Maris said:TA-N7B + TA-E88B:
Yeah not many people ever heard that combination. I´m happy, that I did and still do from time to time. Especially the TA-N7B is very refreshing, if you think how big the improvements in analog audio amplifiers were over the last 30 years:
Nil, Zero, Null, Nothing, Nada, Nix, Rien !
IMO the TA-N7B isn´t vintage at all, when it comes to sound.
I heard only one amplifier, which is a nuance tighter, and more dynamic up to the highest freqencies, but that ugly little beast outclassed every other commercial amplifier it met so far. If you want to see it, take a look at the appended photos, the black beauty with the thin handles and the stylish coffee machine power switch is it !
Please take a look at some impressions of my freshly modified SCD-777ES and the new self made hifi rack !
The rack was necessary, because my old setup looked like a chaotic black pile of junk, with a huge golden CDP on top of it ... It will have an additional second stage for my PS-8750 turntable, but this is not finished yet.
Very nice Mirko!
I assume that coffee machine amp is the one you built yourself ?
Rack looks good man! What speakers do you use ?
I have to say, I've been to many hifishows, heard exotic stuff, but I am awestruck by my own setup now. Couldn't be happier and won't be looking for better anytime soon (except for the cdplayer and a turntable).
Unda Maris
Mr. V-FET
The amplifier is an EDiSONE Audio CA-1:
2x20W into 8Ohms
Bandwidth 40 MHz
Ground free design
Residual noise < 1uV
Dynamic range > 140dB
2x180.000uF PSU
Built around 1998
2x20W into 8Ohms
Bandwidth 40 MHz
Ground free design
Residual noise < 1uV
Dynamic range > 140dB
2x180.000uF PSU
Built around 1998
mesut BALCI
Active Member
Listening to resulting sound, I think that tae88+5650poweramp is a very bad match. 5650 poweramp suppreses natural dynamism and all natural musical flow of tae88, simply higher and lower classes and different presentations supressing each other. TA-5650 is a perfect gift with standalone much more suitable preamp section and tae88 needs its mate, a more dynamic, faster mate so that resulting sound will be completely as natural as nature. Overall spread resolution and obviously more natural, more dynamic presentation are what make tae-tan serie the higher class.
In ta5650 as integrated, a narrow area or spots (including strings and male vocals) looks to have higher resolution(?] or peaks and also gives background uppermid ambiance more accentedly and as a result gives interestingly a hair standing, charming sound. ta5650 owners, use it as is. Very well matched, perfect integrated and even warmer with its own preamplifier section. Trebles are also more accented or peaky or tae88 gives tiny bit closed or duller trebles.
Today I expermented lux c05 m05 fed by a very younger pioneer dvd player and speakers were very big monitors Wilson Audio CUB:
http://www.stereophile.com/loudspeakerreviews/498wilson/index.html
Arrgh! better bass, faster sound, smoother presentation, again wide staging and gave even better of my closed room feeling and ambiance with the same cdrom I memorised. These are mostly due to speakers, very fast, and store asked 4000$ for second hand. Only resolution was a bit better when I came home. Yes resolution, hard to beat property of vfet series which makes me wonder about the result of comparison to current AK subject mx10000:scratch2:
In ta5650 as integrated, a narrow area or spots (including strings and male vocals) looks to have higher resolution(?] or peaks and also gives background uppermid ambiance more accentedly and as a result gives interestingly a hair standing, charming sound. ta5650 owners, use it as is. Very well matched, perfect integrated and even warmer with its own preamplifier section. Trebles are also more accented or peaky or tae88 gives tiny bit closed or duller trebles.
Today I expermented lux c05 m05 fed by a very younger pioneer dvd player and speakers were very big monitors Wilson Audio CUB:
http://www.stereophile.com/loudspeakerreviews/498wilson/index.html
Arrgh! better bass, faster sound, smoother presentation, again wide staging and gave even better of my closed room feeling and ambiance with the same cdrom I memorised. These are mostly due to speakers, very fast, and store asked 4000$ for second hand. Only resolution was a bit better when I came home. Yes resolution, hard to beat property of vfet series which makes me wonder about the result of comparison to current AK subject mx10000:scratch2:
mesut BALCI
Active Member
After changing my Job I got a couple of very stressfull weeks due to new environment and terribly hard work state and I took myself to a near hi-end store. I only wanted to listen to a good sound and he turned on a ready system and put a cdrom. ArggH! Finally I experienced one of the staging mentioned somewhere on AK. Nothing to say, 5-6 levels higher scale reproduction. I thoght if it was possible now to reach to such a sound by a not very interesting system in a very little store but he said price was just a bit under 100.000$. Then I mentioned about the Avalon speakers I told here on yamaha cdx10000 thread. He looked at me and said they are not 4500$ but 45.000$. I still dont know If the other store said wrong price for used avalons but it seems I was a bit in hurry for a strict decision between new and old, because fling among $s I solved one of my problems. All the speakers that I experienced at stores had one common property. All have somewhat angled front baffle, either for only woofers or for all the drivers. I came home and tried this. I always turned to my new spk adcustment after all my A-B sessions. Music was simply like ones I heard at stores, this is an interesting but powerfull trick. I use front spikes about 0,5 cm longer than back spikes. When tuned well, bass gets very deeper, cleaner, more controlled, trebles are more extended, sound is somewhat much more open and not restricted otherwise always as dull-closed as usual to most of old systems I listened to. Please try this. I think this way, sound is naturally less distorsive, maybe diectly facing speakers cause distorsion in reproduction and even timing -speed is better now, musical flow is improved very much. I dont know if time-aligned in a better way now, or if due to less horisontal component of woofer force to the back causing more cabinet distortion. Please try to get deeper bass always controlling staging and also preventing a kind of veil caused by adjustment. When excessive, veil covers music, when well tuned this is one of the biggest differences between old and new speakers.
On the other hand I noticably improved resulting sound of tae88-5650 combo, I hate cables but it always works, I changed all the cabling and their order from IC's to power cords to even power sockets getting best from new system, costly solution of matching with variety of cabling, only one time investment to different cables having very different sonic properties. This is my best sound at home and I started to only listen to music and difference between new and old world is again wortless thinking too high cost for little improvement or very noticable amount of improvemnt costs 100.000$. Old world still strongly works, and this is still best old setup I heard in my lifetime :thmbsp: I will now strictly think on an investment on ta-n7 selling somethings.
Finally I experienced one of the staging mentioned somewhere on AK. Nothing to say, 5-6 levels higher scale reproduction. I thoght if it was possible now to reach to such a sound by a not very interesting system in a very little store but he said price was just a bit under 100.000$. Then I mentioned about the Avalon speakers I told here on yamaha cdx10000 thread. He looked at me and said they are not 4500$ but 45.000$. I still dont know If the other store said wrong price for used avalons but it seems I was a bit in hurry for a strict decision between new and old, because fling among $s I solved one of my problems. All the speakers that I experienced at stores had one common property. All have somewhat angled front baffle, either for only woofers or for all the drivers. I came home and tried this. I always turned to my new spk adcustment after all my A-B sessions. Music was simply like ones I heard at stores, this is an interesting but powerfull trick. I use front spikes about 0,5 cm longer than back spikes. When tuned well, bass gets very deeper, cleaner, more controlled, trebles are more extended, sound is somewhat much more open and not restricted otherwise always as dull-closed as usual to most of old systems I listened to. Please try this. I think this way, sound is naturally less distorsive, maybe diectly facing speakers cause distorsion in reproduction and even timing -speed is better now, musical flow is improved very much. I dont know if time-aligned in a better way now, or if due to less horisontal component of woofer force to the back causing more cabinet distortion. Please try to get deeper bass always controlling staging and also preventing a kind of veil caused by adjustment. When excessive, veil covers music, when well tuned this is one of the biggest differences between old and new speakers. On the other hand I noticably improved resulting sound of tae88-5650 combo, I hate cables but it always works, I changed all the cabling and their order from IC's to power cords to even power sockets getting best from new system, costly solution of matching with variety of cabling, only one time investment to different cables having very different sonic properties. This is my best sound at home and I started to only listen to music and difference between new and old world is again wortless thinking too high cost for little improvement or very noticable amount of improvemnt costs 100.000$. Old world still strongly works, and this is still best old setup I heard in my lifetime :thmbsp: I will now strictly think on an investment on ta-n7 selling somethings.
