Axcel - Check the link in post #934. We all love your STR-6055. Great little receiver. MRSP of $280 in 1973 and 40wpc.
Show Us Your Sonys!!!
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the-real-mandak
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The Sony APM-6 as B-2 mention the link in #934 posted by axel.
MSRP $8.413 year 1982, sold for $3.028 in 2007 not bad indeed.
MSRP $8.413 year 1982, sold for $3.028 in 2007 not bad indeed.
gilbodavid
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Ah, interesting. also picked up some apm-20es speakers cheap. been comparing them to my ss-3's, and some yamaha ns-615's. only on t-amp still, but i have to say i get swung 3 ways. initially it was the atm's that had more life and musicality, then the ss-3's seemed easier to listen to for long periods, then the yammies, which in immediate comparisons fell below the other 2, suddenly became surprisingly nice. I await my sony amps for better comparison. i still wonder if cap changes in the older ss-3's might reap bebefits. Another sneaky sleeper may be mine soon....
gilbodavid
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and i love those apm-6's too. I've just redecorated my living room, and am for the first time in my life looking for speakers that look good in my room!!!! Quads are definately going! Trouble is, i've lived with their midrange for 5 years. Nothing has equalled it yet, except Avantgarde duo's played with $50,000 of amplification. Visually Martin logans may be ok, smp-6's ... mmm.. but at £1500 i think not.
Did you find the proper transistors for the MC section on your TA-2000F? And, when do we get the pic's? This is the "Show Us Your Sonys" thread, afterall.gilbodavid said:
Would like to see what you are talking about.IsakAlexande
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I like it a lot. What do you think?
A couple of questions
I'm not a techie, so just smile if this sounds knave. Some contributors
claim their Sony receivers have better tuner sections than any stand alone
tuner out there. Better than a Sony ST-5000F? Or ST-5950SD, which
I just purchased ( anyone knowing where I can obtain schematics would be
a friend indeed )? Better than the top tuners on the Tunerinfo site?
And how do you know; can the tuner section be isolated and run through an outside amplifier? Maybe I should sell my TU-S9 and the 5950 and pay
whatever it takes to grab a very top end receiver. Help out this over-medicated old man and point me in the right direction; it would be most
appreciated.
Ron
I'm not a techie, so just smile if this sounds knave. Some contributors
claim their Sony receivers have better tuner sections than any stand alone
tuner out there. Better than a Sony ST-5000F? Or ST-5950SD, which
I just purchased ( anyone knowing where I can obtain schematics would be
a friend indeed )? Better than the top tuners on the Tunerinfo site?
And how do you know; can the tuner section be isolated and run through an outside amplifier? Maybe I should sell my TU-S9 and the 5950 and pay
whatever it takes to grab a very top end receiver. Help out this over-medicated old man and point me in the right direction; it would be most
appreciated.
Ron
Some receiver folks are simply over-wrought in their enthusiasm.Gems4u said:
While there are several TOTL Sony receivers that have excellent 5-gang tuners in them, when at their best, I doubt that they are 'better' than the two you mentioned, as well as several others from Sony and some of those on the TIC. Please note that the listings on the TIC 'Shootout' are one man's opinion and not a universal truth. Only your ears can provide that. 
EricC
Super Member
Yamaha B-2 said:Some receiver folks are simply over-wrought in their enthusiasm.
You can say that again!
Any way you look at it moving to a receiver from seperated will be taking a step back. I'd stick with what you have and get it brought up to spec. Don't get me wrong there are some great receivers out there but Sony made far too many very good seperates to warrent that move unless you need to downside.
If you have the time, patience and funds try out several tuners in your system.
I've both a Sony ST-5000FW and a STR-6200F. The separate tuner is certainly a bit better but the receiver is more than most people will ever need.
BTW, none of the early TOTL Sony receivers had pre-amp out connections so using them as separate tuners is not very practical unless one uses the record out connections.
BTW, none of the early TOTL Sony receivers had pre-amp out connections so using them as separate tuners is not very practical unless one uses the record out connections.
Axcel
Accuphase all the way
Sony Receiver or Tuner
agree 100%:thmbsp:Yamaha B-2 said:Some receiver folks are simply over-wrought in their enthusiasm.
Here my TA-E900 compared with the TA-E88B:
More pictures and with higher resolution I've put in the gallery:
http://www.audiokarma.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=24138
The nudies (before recapping) are here:
http://audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1095183&postcount=123
As you see the TA-E900 is not in best cosmetic condition. And while it was sold as working it arrived with one defective channel. But after repairing that, recapping and cleaning the switches it is definitely the best sounding pre-amp I have heard
Except perhaps the (MC-)phono section, here I have the impression that the TA-E88 sounds better. But over the line-inputs music is quiet, stable in the space, precise but nevertheless not annoying in a way I never heard it.
Well I think my search for an adequate pre-amp is over now
More pictures and with higher resolution I've put in the gallery:
http://www.audiokarma.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=24138
The nudies (before recapping) are here:
http://audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1095183&postcount=123
As you see the TA-E900 is not in best cosmetic condition. And while it was sold as working it arrived with one defective channel. But after repairing that, recapping and cleaning the switches it is definitely the best sounding pre-amp I have heard
Except perhaps the (MC-)phono section, here I have the impression that the TA-E88 sounds better. But over the line-inputs music is quiet, stable in the space, precise but nevertheless not annoying in a way I never heard it.
Well I think my search for an adequate pre-amp is over now
Stoffie said:
I have no "before and after impressions" for the TA-E900. To access all places of the PCB you have to detach it from the sub-frame, therefore you have to remove some of the wires, ...
This work I wanted to do only once and so did the repairs, recapping and cleaning in one effort.
In the TA-E88 however you easily can access (nearly) everything you need after removing the cover and bottom plate. So here you can do the modifications step by step.
It is a while since I did it for the TA-E88, so I can not remember all details. But yes, there was an improvement.
One other thing was that recapping considerably reduced the DC-offset without touching the adjustment pots. Only minor adjustment had to be made after recapping.
The elcos age and dry out. As they do not get very hot in the TA-E88 you may not expect that they already will fail after 20+ years, but also as an act of precaution...
Changing the elcos in the TA-E88 can be done comfortably in one afternoon I think (if you have the tool to unsolder). Only the elcos on the little PCB of the power supply of the head amp make some trubble. Either you have to unsolder this board (I did not do that). Or you have to remove the part of the chassis over the input-output terminals. This takes some work too, but then you can replace the elcos on the little PCB while the other elcos are out of the way.
Cleaning the switches takes moooooore time (it took me about one hour per unit ... after I had some practice). I distributed that work over two and a half saturdays, not to get frustrated
Apart from the elcos there are these small square Tantalum buffer caps. In the TA-E 900 several were defective in the broken channel. So, in the TA-E900, I replaced them all to be on the safe side. But I think they were most likely blown by some over voltage causing (or caused by) the defect of this channel. So it may not be necessary to replace these in the TA-E88 (I did not in mine up to now).
axel
Super Member
Yamaha B-2 said:
Until John posts images of his own, I've added the SS-G333ES and SS-G777ES in the ES section of TVK.
DO read the technical reviews translated from the original Sony DIGIC articles - they are as close as you will get not to the catalogs but to the people who actually designed the units.
Both loudspeakers are magnificent examples of what educated high-end can be.
> G333ES: http://www.thevintageknob.org/SONY/sonyes/SSG333ES/SSG333ES.html
> G777ES: http://www.thevintageknob.org/SONY/sonyes/SSG777ES/SSG777ES.html