jeffpaletz
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Did Shure make any P-Mount cartridges? I have a Technics SL6 I'd like to search for a Shure P mount cartridge for. Was there a P-mount equivalent for the V15 series? What about a P mount version of the M91 or M95?
Shure P Mount cartridges
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SA-708
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Shure made two generations of p-mount cartridges.
As far as the V15, the first model was the V15-LT, which was the p-mount version of the V15 type IV. I have one, and it is a very nice cartridge, but it is not easy to find styli for these now. From page 2 of the user's guide, these seem to have been designed specifically for the Technics linear trackers like your SL-6.
http://cdn.shure.com/user_guide/upload/1811/us_pro_v15_lt_ug.pdf
There were also the Shure V15 V-P and V15 HR-P, which were from the Type V era. These I do not have experience with.
There were also lesser p-mount cartridges from Era IV and the current era. The M92E is the one still in production, but it can use the styli from several other models that had better stylus profiles.
As far as the V15, the first model was the V15-LT, which was the p-mount version of the V15 type IV. I have one, and it is a very nice cartridge, but it is not easy to find styli for these now. From page 2 of the user's guide, these seem to have been designed specifically for the Technics linear trackers like your SL-6.
http://cdn.shure.com/user_guide/upload/1811/us_pro_v15_lt_ug.pdf
There were also the Shure V15 V-P and V15 HR-P, which were from the Type V era. These I do not have experience with.
There were also lesser p-mount cartridges from Era IV and the current era. The M92E is the one still in production, but it can use the styli from several other models that had better stylus profiles.
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iLUVanalog
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Shure made plenty of P-mounts back in the day. And yes, there was a P-mount version of the V15.
Sadly, the ONLY P-mount still in production is the M92E.
I have had a P-mount version of the M 94 E for decades, which has been out of production for a very long time, but replacement styli are still available.
I agree with SA-708 that it's easy enough to buy an M92E and replace the stock stylus with a better one. That's actually what I did...I bought two M92E cartridges and replaced the stylus with the stylus for the M94.
Sadly, the ONLY P-mount still in production is the M92E.
I have had a P-mount version of the M 94 E for decades, which has been out of production for a very long time, but replacement styli are still available.
I agree with SA-708 that it's easy enough to buy an M92E and replace the stock stylus with a better one. That's actually what I did...I bought two M92E cartridges and replaced the stylus with the stylus for the M94.
And the M92E body is basically that of the old Era IV M97ED body, which in turn is the same as the M95ED body from Era III. The body shell is the same shape, too, so it will take many older (ie, era III and later) Shure styli.
As far as I know, even though Shure was still peddling M75 variants practically til the end, they never made a p-mount of that body, which was the same as the M91. That p-mount would be handy thing to have, since the Jico SAS/M91 combo is a happy one.
As SA-708 said, Shure did make p-mount versions of the V15IV and original V15V, called the V15LT and V15V-P respectively. They would accept either their own special p-mount styli or the styli from the standard-mount versions, though the decorative plastic cap of the V15LT had to be pulled off (partly or wholly) to make this possible (but see post 7).
Likewise, the standard-mount bodies accept their same-model p-mount styli. However, the standard-mount V15IV body is a bit picky and won't accept anything from either V15V.
The V15HR-P is a bit of an oddball, as it doesn't appear to partake of any special V15 "magic" except that its tracking ability is very slightly enhanced over that of its near-twin, the DT1200HRP.
As far as I know, even though Shure was still peddling M75 variants practically til the end, they never made a p-mount of that body, which was the same as the M91. That p-mount would be handy thing to have, since the Jico SAS/M91 combo is a happy one.
As SA-708 said, Shure did make p-mount versions of the V15IV and original V15V, called the V15LT and V15V-P respectively. They would accept either their own special p-mount styli or the styli from the standard-mount versions, though the decorative plastic cap of the V15LT had to be pulled off (partly or wholly) to make this possible (but see post 7).
Likewise, the standard-mount bodies accept their same-model p-mount styli. However, the standard-mount V15IV body is a bit picky and won't accept anything from either V15V.
The V15HR-P is a bit of an oddball, as it doesn't appear to partake of any special V15 "magic" except that its tracking ability is very slightly enhanced over that of its near-twin, the DT1200HRP.
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SA-708
Appalachian-American
I think I would rather trim back the plastic on a V15 Type IV stylus (such as a JICO SAS) than to remove the decorative plastic cap from my cartridge. It is just so darn attractive. But I am still holding out hopes for a JICO replacement for the VN45LT stylus, someday soon.
Seth [UPDATE: no longer with JICO] said he was working on that VN45LT-SAS. Here's hoping.
I too find the design of the V15LT attractive, but don't be afraid to remove the cap. The adhesive-- on mine, at least-- is gooey rather than hard. It appeared to be a thin adhesive-soaked foam. It pulled right off, and could be put right back on if needed. Besides, with the cap in place you'd really have to do some trimming of the stylus to get a VN45HE-SAS to insert all the way. Either that, or you'd have to force the stylus in. Not that it couldn't be done, but I wouldn't want to have to try. [UPDATE: others report doing the forcing.]
Of course, once Jico comes up with a proper stylus, none of this will be necessary.
I too find the design of the V15LT attractive, but don't be afraid to remove the cap. The adhesive-- on mine, at least-- is gooey rather than hard. It appeared to be a thin adhesive-soaked foam. It pulled right off, and could be put right back on if needed. Besides, with the cap in place you'd really have to do some trimming of the stylus to get a VN45HE-SAS to insert all the way. Either that, or you'd have to force the stylus in. Not that it couldn't be done, but I wouldn't want to have to try. [UPDATE: others report doing the forcing.]
Of course, once Jico comes up with a proper stylus, none of this will be necessary.
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Decibel_116
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The Shure V15LT and a Technics linear tracker are an exceptional combination.
ETI_5000
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Here’s at least some (not all!) of the p-mounts Shure made:
800E, 1000E, 1200HRP, Alta Pro 2, Alta Pro 4, BC80, DT15P, DT25P, DT35P, HA105ES, HE150, LTP-2, M92E, M92LT, M92LTP-2, M92LT-EP, M94LT, M96LT, M97LT, M99E, M104E, M105E, M110HE, M111E, M111HE, M970HR-P, ME75P, ME94P, ME96P, ML120-P, MP94E, MT105P, MT205P, MT305P, ND1000, ND1500, ND2000, Presence 2, Presence 4, Presence 8, Presence 500S, Presence 1000E, Pro5 IMP, Pro6, Pro40 IMP, Proart 2, Proart 3, Proart 5, Proart 7, Proart 9, Pro-Track 4, Pro-Track 6, Pro-Track 8, Pro-Track 10, Realistic RXP3, Realistic RXT5, Realistic RXT6, V15HR-P, V15-LT, V15V-P and VST III-P.
Note that some are OEM cartridges, not Shure models, although they were often labelled Shure. Many of the cartridges also were sold under other names in the list, and many also had half inch mount twins, such as (half inch cartridges first, p-mount twin next):
M94E and MP94E
M97HE and M97LT
ML120HE and ML120-P
V15 Type IV and V15LT
V15 Type V and V15V-P.
800E, 1000E, 1200HRP, Alta Pro 2, Alta Pro 4, BC80, DT15P, DT25P, DT35P, HA105ES, HE150, LTP-2, M92E, M92LT, M92LTP-2, M92LT-EP, M94LT, M96LT, M97LT, M99E, M104E, M105E, M110HE, M111E, M111HE, M970HR-P, ME75P, ME94P, ME96P, ML120-P, MP94E, MT105P, MT205P, MT305P, ND1000, ND1500, ND2000, Presence 2, Presence 4, Presence 8, Presence 500S, Presence 1000E, Pro5 IMP, Pro6, Pro40 IMP, Proart 2, Proart 3, Proart 5, Proart 7, Proart 9, Pro-Track 4, Pro-Track 6, Pro-Track 8, Pro-Track 10, Realistic RXP3, Realistic RXT5, Realistic RXT6, V15HR-P, V15-LT, V15V-P and VST III-P.
Note that some are OEM cartridges, not Shure models, although they were often labelled Shure. Many of the cartridges also were sold under other names in the list, and many also had half inch mount twins, such as (half inch cartridges first, p-mount twin next):
M94E and MP94E
M97HE and M97LT
ML120HE and ML120-P
V15 Type IV and V15LT
V15 Type V and V15V-P.
