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Single ended to balanced solution

there is of course nothing wrong with using op amps and other active devices to carry out this conversion.
But as I had pointed out above, in most cases, simple is best, not to mention that a completely passive device, ie transformer, will probably outperform any op amp based device, as long as that transformer is well designed and made, of which Lundahl Transformers are.
Is our solution cheap?, maybe not cheap, but it sure is not uber expensive either and as long as there is physical room inside a chassis, it is a very simple, elegant and reliable solution.
 
On the one hand you're adding active devices to the signal chain, on the other hand you're adding magnetics. Active devices means additional power supplies and cables/connections (if done with a separate box), as well as the voltage and current noise which are inherent to active devices. But opamps can have extremely low distortion and present a very high input impedance at low frequencies, and modern ones can have excellent noise performance. Magnetics have their own distortions and still have Johnson-Nyquist noise plus magnetic pickup, but lack other sources of active noise. Also there are the added benefits of galvanic isolation etc. Good signal-level transformers like Lundahl can of course be very low distortion. Either approach can have gain, and either's noise and distortion should be far below the levels relevant to a tube amplifier if properly implemented
 
Of course it’s really easy to avoid any conversion if you start with balanced sources.

Another reason to avoid 10’ RCA runs is that the weight of the cables will always be pulling on the connections. Friction fit is usually fine for short cables but I have had problems with this before. Granted, these were pretty cheap cables but I had a 6’ set of RCAs that gradually slid out of the jack. Was causing really weird problems and was only able to figure it out when it came out completely. High quality RCA cables tend to be heavier than than regular ones and so work against themselves a bit.

All of this is another reason XLR connections are used in pro and studio environments. It might be a little overkill for home use but it sure does feel good to have the XLR click into place.
 
Obviously there are cheaper solutions, but these are high quality/performance, I hear no degradation of the signal using them and preserves the advantages of using balanced cables. These also have the option of 1:1 or 1:2 signal gain if needed.

To answer your other question: if you float a signal pin, it's no longer a balanced cable and you lose 1/2 of the signal strength. There is no point in using the XLR out on the source if you're going to do that. Same is true if you use RCA out of a pre-amp to XLR in on an amp. You then also have to keep the ground pin connected on both ends to provide the return signal path, inviting ground loops. That's one nice advantage true XLR provides, you can lift the ground on one end of the cable if needed. Sonically I can't imagine using one side of a balanced signal is a good idea either, but never personally tried it.
Actually if the balanced source is AES48 compliant, the output level is exactly the same if it is operated balanced or single-ended. An output transformer of a balanced device is likely the easiest way to understand this. If its balanced, its secondary is tied to pins 2 and 3 of the XLR and nothing else (pin 1 is chassis). If you tied pin 3 to pin1, you can see that the output Voltage will stay exactly the same.

Its the same way with a phono cartridge, which is also a balanced source. Its output will not double if you run it balanced.

If the output running balanced is twice that of single-ended, its a sign the source is not AES48 (one of the balanced line standards) compliant. Instead its merely two single-ended outputs that are out of phase with each other. Use one you have 1X output level, use both you have 2X output level. The problem is it references ground:
Another reason to avoid 10’ RCA runs is that the weight of the cables will always be pulling on the connections. Friction fit is usually fine for short cables but I have had problems with this before. Granted, these were pretty cheap cables but I had a 6’ set of RCAs that gradually slid out of the jack. Was causing really weird problems and was only able to figure it out when it came out completely. High quality RCA cables tend to be heavier than than regular ones and so work against themselves a bit.

All of this is another reason XLR connections are used in pro and studio environments. It might be a little overkill for home use but it sure does feel good to have the XLR click into place.
There are three main reasons to use balanced connections in the studio or at home:
1) ground loop immunity, since ground is ignored in the connection (unless the equipment is not supporting AES48)
2) immunity to interconnect cable coloration, since the shield is not part of the audio connection
3) lower noise due to Common Mode Rejection Ratio (CMRR) where if a signal is imposed on both conductors in the audio cable, it will be rejected by however many dB of rejection is available to the system. Transformers often offer about 100-110 dB of CMRR.

It is worth doing this in tube equipment! Tubes are more sensitive to speaker cables so its handy to keep the amps as close to the speakers as possible, so as to minimize speaker cable length. This way you get more resolution and better bass impact. The problem is then the long interconnects that might result. But if you have a proper balanced connection, you can run really long interconnect cables without much cost or coloration. I use 35 foot cables in my system at home, using Mogami Neglex, which is not an expensive cable, but one which, if used properly, will sound as good as cable that might cost $1000/foot. I'm not be hyperbolic; I've done such comparisons in the past. I've been running a fully balanced (all tube) system in my home since 1989.
 
2) immunity to interconnect cable coloration, since the shield is not part of the audio connection.
Question. So any quality-balanced interconnect will be fine? There's no need to spend mega bucks on "boutique" models. :idea:

I've used balanced XLR interconnects for ages (mic setups). I buy Pro Mogami ones because they last a long time, even when stepped on. Repeatedly plugged and unplugged. But that wouldn't be an issue with most Hi-Fi setups.

Thanks!
 
Actually if the balanced source is AES48 compliant, the output level is exactly the same if it is operated balanced or single-ended. An output transformer of a balanced device is likely the easiest way to understand this. If its balanced, its secondary is tied to pins 2 and 3 of the XLR and nothing else (pin 1 is chassis). If you tied pin 3 to pin1, you can see that the output Voltage will stay exactly the same.
they asked "What happens if XLR cable's pin 3 is floated then connected to RCA input of 2A3 SET?"
 
Question. So any quality-balanced interconnect will be fine? There's no need to spend mega bucks on "boutique" models. :idea:

I've used balanced XLR interconnects for ages (mic setups). I buy Pro Mogami ones because they last a long time, even when stepped on. Repeatedly plugged and unplugged. But that wouldn't be an issue with most Hi-Fi setups.

Thanks!
Exactly. I stopped buying boutique interconnect cables a long time ago. Except for the single-ended stuff.
they asked "What happens if XLR cable's pin 3 is floated then connected to RCA input of 2A3 SET?"
If its floated, pin 3 will act like an open circuit. So you'll get a buzz or perhaps nothing at all. The way to do it is to tie pin2 to the center pin of the RCA and pin 3 to the shield (barrel) connection of the RCA, with the RCA also being insulated from the chassis of the SET. Then pin 1 of the XLR is tied to a ground wire which is connected to the chassis of the SET.

If this sounds familiar, its because its the same connection you see in turntables.
 
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