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Skunk Works SR-72 coming to an AFB near you (hopefully)!

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I hope this aircraft really comes to fruition and becomes a national asset!


Lockheed Martin's Skunkworks to build successor to SR-71 Blackbird


A new hypersonic spy plane is coming from the company that helped invent the technology -- and this one will fly six times the speed of sound.

Dubbed the SR-72, or Son of Blackbird, the new unmanned spy plane is under development at Lockheed Martin’s famed Skunk Works division, where some of the company’s most advanced projects have been developed. It will be the successor to the famous SR-71, which the U.S. Air Force operated for decades but retired almost 20 years ago.

Lockheed built the Blackbird in the early 60s after Gary Powers’ U-2 spy plane was hit by surface-to-air missiles over the Soviet Union, a Cold War crisis that revealed the real need for faster planes and better spy capabilities. Built and tested at Groom Lake in Nevada -- right around the corner from Area 51 -- the Blackbird was designed to fly far faster than anything else around, maintaining speeds in excess of 2,000 mph.

The SR-71 was flown from New York to London in less than two hours in 1976 by U.S. Air Force crews, reaching speeds exceeding Mach 3 and setting world records that have held up for nearly four decades.

But Son of Blackbird? The SR-72 should make its aging ancestor look like a Sunday driver out taking in the fall foliage.

“Hypersonic aircraft, coupled with hypersonic missiles, could penetrate denied airspace and strike at nearly any location across a continent in less than an hour,” said Brad Leland, Lockheed Martin program manager for hypersonics. “Speed is the next aviation advancement to counter emerging threats in the next several decades. The technology would be a game-changer in theater, similar to how stealth is changing the battlespace today.”

The plane would achieve those mind-numbing speeds through a new engine designed in partnership with Aerojet Rocketdyne; the two companies have been working for seven years on a technique to integrate air-breathing "scramjets" with turbine engines, Lockheed’s Brad Leland told AviationWeek.

“We have developed a way to work with an off-the-shelf fighter-class engine like the F100/F110,” Leland said. The plan builds off a conceptual design called the Blackswift created in recent years. That plane never succeeded, but the design proved viable.

“It was controllable and kept the pointy end forward,” Leland said.

An SR-72 could take years to be realized, however. The path calls for a demonstration model that would fly by 2023. Working planes could arrive by 2030, boosting U.S. military secrecy and might not through anti-radar coatings and invisibility but by sheer speed.

“Speed is the new stealth,” Al Romig, Skunk Works engineering and advanced systems vice president, told Aviation Week.

'Hypersonic aircraft, coupled with hypersonic missiles, could penetrate denied airspace and strike at nearly any location.'
- Brad Leland, Lockheed Martin program manager for Hypersonics
 

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It better fly in the very upper edges of the atmosphere as the X15 which flew at those speeds nearly burned itself up from friction each time it went up. To the point on the fastest flights they had to coat it with a burn away coating on the surfaces to protect the metal of the craft.
 
cool, but what defense need does this address? Looks like a slight bit of overkill (no pun intended) for routing out insurgents. Great for nuking Commies... but that's so 1950s...
 
cool, but what defense need does this address? Looks like a slight bit of overkill (no pun intended) for routing out insurgents. Great for nuking Commies... but that's so 1950s...

mhardy6647, you must think outside the box!


This type of aircraft is NEITHER a strike fighter NOR is it an attack bomber. It is solely an airborne reconnaissance platform. This is a Strategic Reconnaissance aircraft --hence, the name, SR-7x.

Big, big difference!!

Even with the huge development costs of such aircraft, it is much cheaper in the long run to be able to quickly fly anywhere on Earth on short notice and surveil an area with this type of aircraft than it is to continuously rely on already-in-place, uber-expensive reconnaissance satellites that carry only a precious, very finite amount of fuel and consumables.

Until a remote refueling spacecraft can be developed that can reach low-orbit satellites, as well soar to a synchronous Earth orbit 22,000 miles high and beyond, a Skunk Works miracle is what this country needs, again.

Besides, it's not very smart defense-wise to continue parking this nation's orbiting EYES all in one sitting-duck band up in orbit just waiting for the Chinese to easily and cheaply take them out one by one when the defecation hits the rotary oscillator!
 
sorry I may have misinterpreted this statement in the quoted text (emphasis added). Sounded to me as though the only real interest was in a hypersonic attack platform...

“Hypersonic aircraft,coupled with hypersonic missiles, could penetrate denied airspace and strike at nearly any location across a continent in less than an hour,” said Brad Leland, Lockheed Martin program manager for hypersonics. “Speed is the next aviation advancement to counter emerging threats in the next several decades. The technology would be a game-changer in theater, similar to how stealth is changing the battlespace today.”
I mean, you don't "strike" with recon.

If it's really (only) to be a spy plane... How can there be any need for recon aircraft given the satellite network in place?
 
Given that we have US Forces in almost every corner of the globe, what about small drone surveillance?

They're too small for radar to pick up, are cheaper to replace if they fail, and put no one in harm's way if a crash occurs.
 
If it's really (only) to be a spy plane... How can there be any need for recon aircraft given the satellite network in place?

The SR-7x platform would be used in conjunction to the in situ satellite network.

Despite the enormous monetary outlay, a recon satellite has a relatively short lifetime due to limited fuel and other consumables on board. Yes, the recon birds are great, but one glitch in the hardware, or one uploaded errant command, could effectively kill a satellite. The hypersonic program would, I presume, be used as a backup recon program. The hypersonic vehicles could possibly fill in the gaps, whatever that may be, that the satellites could miss at a given time due to where our military's point-of-interest happens to be fixated at that time.
 
Given that we have US Forces in almost every corner of the globe, what about small drone surveillance?

A small drone can't reach deep into a country filled with bad people that are hostile to the Western World and effectively image the target area, as well as suck up all enemy electronic emissions for later evaluation.

That's kind of like trying to load a normal automobile with the massive load that an 18-wheel semi (Lorry to our Brit friends.) can transport. It doesn't work very well.


They're too small for radar to pick up, are cheaper to replace if they fail, and put no one in harm's way if a crash occurs.

That's fine for imaging a battlefield or a single city, but not much help when thousands of square miles/kilometers must be ogled, sniffed, and listened to.

Besides, the proposed SR-72 is an unmanned platform.
 
I think that there is a real fear of the satellites taken out...China has been pondering that for awhile now.

What I worry about is the cost of our weapons...Look at what happened to our latest class of Navy warships....the quantity dropped from 32 ordered to 3 or 4...So the unit cost skyrockets, you get less, and if you lose one, your screwed. Same thing is happening with our aircraft.

We will do to ourselves what we did with the Soviet Union, and that is spend ourselves into military bankruptcy
 
What I worry about is the cost of our weapons...Look at what happened to our latest class of Navy warships....the quantity dropped from 32 ordered to 3 or 4...So the unit cost skyrockets, you get less, and if you lose one, your screwed. Same thing is happening with our aircraft.

We will do to ourselves what we did with the Soviet Union, and that is spend ourselves into military bankruptcy

Sadly, I have to agree with you.
 
Innovation breeds success. The best and brightest have been tasked with engineering something never built before. Sitting on you hands and saying things are good enough is a recipe for extinction.
 
We will do to ourselves what we did with the Soviet Union, and that is spend ourselves into military bankruptcy

Lordy, Lordy, isn't that the honest truth.

I can think of a thousand things that the money would be better spent on.

"How about a plane that shoots food to hungry people?" - Bill Hicks :D


I've laid my grubby little hands on the SR-71, and it is still striking. But this seems so pointless.

"Beware the growing power and influence of the Military Industrial Complex." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
 
100% agree. I thought satellites made the SR-71 obsolete.

Silly waste of money.

So wrong. The coalition forces during the Gulf war sure could have used the SR-71's capabilities...had they not been mothballed just a year earlier. Hussein knew when the satellites would be overhead...you could set your watch by them. Iraqis moved mobile SCUD missiles while the satellites were unable to watch,hid them when sats were overhead. The SR-71 would have been invaluable in gathering data on their locations.Nobody could have predicted where or when a recon plane would be watching.

When your freedom has been taken from you,ask yourself how well you spent the money that you didn't "waste" on defense.
 
That speech (if indeed that is from his Farewell Address to the Nation on January 17, 1961) is one I find to be one of the most insightful I can think of from the last 80 years, perhaps more.

I couldn't agree more. It is readily accessible on YouTube, and is always a worthwhile listen.
 
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