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Sony TA-N86B restoration/repair

@rottalpha @Goldie99 Thanks for drawing my attention to the ongoing work on the Sony TA-F5A. Apparently, he was/is struggling similar problems including how to get the PS PCB out of its casing. Funny story. True, it's Indiana Jones-like experience.

Earlier I used the DIRECT output and it was then that the left channel gave out the "big shot sound" every once in a while. Immediately after the shot sound, the output got "muted", I believe only on that channel. I usually just jumped to the amp and turned it off and waited a few seconds, sometimes minutes, and then turned it back on. Then it either turned on and I heard a clicking sound after which it worked, or it did not give a clicking sound and it did not work. If the latter happened, I turned it off again and just waited longer to turn it back on again. Sometimes it took many minutes to be able to get it work again.

Recently, however, perhaps the last few weeks, I switched over to the C COUPLED output and the "big shot sound" never happened again. Sometimes, though, I heard a slight buzzing from the speakers that went away in seconds. But the amp never shut down again. Then the R401 "broke" into two pieces not long ago while the amp was open and the PS case was separated from the rest of the amp (except for the two wire connections). And now I am waiting for the resistor to arrive form China.

Other peculiarity is that the amp has a slight and constant white noise sound, which is odd as it is supposed to be one of least noisy ones (S/N ratio > 120 dB). It is indeed slight but still audible on soft classical music or with no music.

Heatwise, I noticed while the amp was open, and I was using it in class B mode that the right power FETs were very hot, while the left ones were just warm, not hot at all. Weird. I noticed this only after I started playing with setting the 90 V right (it was 94 V before I opened the amp) and the bias currents. I more or less managed to get the 20 and 350 mA's for class B and A, respectively. The PLPS also heated up after a while.
 
I'm sure it's unrelated. I had a kyocera integrated a while back which did something similar. Issue caused by assembly adhesive becoming corrosive on the PCBS. I hope that's not your issue as its a tedious process, basically stripping boards carefully scrapping adhesive. Washing board then repopulating everything.
 
I think you've largely answered your own question - the DIRECT and C-COUPLED outputs you referred to are actually the power amp INPUTS, they are only very slightly different, but in a crucial manner - they're explained in some detail in the manuals (all available free on the hifiengine.com website).

In my opinion, if the "big shot sound" is absent when you use the Cap Coupled input, then it suggests to me that the main problem is likely to be DC related, probably coming from whichever pre-amp you're using, and quite possibly nothing to do with the TA-N86B at all. It sounds as though the protection circuit(s) in the TA-N86B are probably (correctly) being triggered by DC on the input / from the pre-amp, and have quite possibly saved the speakers. The clicking noises you referred to are the relays operating, probably the output protection relays in this case, but with numerous relays in this amp, it's hard to be certain.

Finally, I would add that these are far from simple amps, so I would advise caution in anything you do with it - no offense, but unless you have the necessary equipment and experience, I'd recommend you have it serviced (& possibly recapped) professionally, it's not a particularly good amp to be learning on.
 
Goldie just gave you some golden advice. I second everything he said.

One thing I wanted to ask: Why are you waiting for a resistor from China?? Is it possible that the reputable suppliers didn't have that particular resistor?
 
@rottalpha I am more used to using eBay to order things. If you can suggest me reputable suppliers, I'll check out their prices, too, and compare. A few years ago, when I last ordered such things, I found that US suppliers offered the same "Made in China for export" parts for a very significant markup, typically a factor of 3 to 10. So it was cheaper to order directly form overseas and pay the shipping from there, which is ofter not more than local shipping.
 
Hello from 2019, I'm thinking about acquire this amp, wondering if a repair or revision is needed, it's complicated or straight forward... it's a easy amp to work with?
What was the conclusion of this repair situation?
Thanks!
 
Hello. I am looking for a tech who can repair a Sony TA N86. I will greatly appreciate your help / recommendations. Thanks
You might get more traction if you open your own thread.
Welcome to AK!
Also you're more likely to get educated suggestions if you say what region you are. No need to get too specific in the query.
 
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