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Stick up for a record or two

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Raynie

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Sometimes I have a record I really like which has been panned by critics. I'm gonna stick up for them now.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/hard-rain-mw0000195248
Bob Dylan- Hard Rain
This is a fantastic album. The reworkings of old songs are another sign of musical genius from Dylan (cough - probably more owing to his band)

http://www.allmusic.com/album/porgy-and-bess-mw0000192346
Oscar Peterson/ Joe Pass- Porgy and Bess
Another amazing album. Critics throw it away for Peterson's use of clavichord as a novelty. This is an amazing recording, intimate, quiet and beautiful, masterful execution

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I like "Their Satanic Majesties Request" by The Rolling Stones (London) 1967. That album got panned constantly and still does but there are some great tunes on it. In fact, one of my favorite Stones bootlegs is an 8-cd set called "The Satanic Sessions", fantastic sound quality. Quite interesting... to me. I've heard they award a special pin if you can get through the whole thing in one sitting. I never quite made it. :D
 
Lil' Brian said:
I like "Their Satanic Majesties Request" by The Rolling Stones (London) 1967. That album got panned constantly and still does but there are some great tunes on it. In fact, one of my favorite Stones bootlegs is an 8-cd set called "The Satanic Sessions", fantastic sound quality. Quite interesting... to me. I've heard they award a special pin if you can get through the whole thing in one sitting. I never quite made it. :D
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Yeah, I like (most of) it too. It has that "I'll give it a go" attitude where you can't take things too seriously.
 
Lil' Brian said:
I like "Their Satanic Majesties Request" by The Rolling Stones (London) 1967. That album got panned constantly and still does but there are some great tunes on it. In fact, one of my favorite Stones bootlegs is an 8-cd set called "The Satanic Sessions", fantastic sound quality. Quite interesting... to me. I've heard they award a special pin if you can get through the whole thing in one sitting. I never quite made it. :D
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+1,a lot of great songs on this record.
Why don't we sing this song all together...
 
BlindBoyGrnt said:
Yeah, I like (most of) it too. It has that "I'll give it a go" attitude where you can't take things too seriously.
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+2. It's one of my favorite Stones LPs. I told my son the Stones did a psych LP and he asked me to play it. He got such a kick out of it, he downloaded it and used it to stump his friends. Some great songs on there considering all the drugs, arrests and lack of focus while recording it.
 
Not to argue it's a terrible album, but I think most critics took objection to the Stones (namely, Jagger/Richards/Jones) crossing the line in stealing from the artistry of Love's Da Capo without attribution. Stones' "She's A Rainbow" is in many ways a carbon copy of Love's song "She Comes in Colors", generally regarded as inferior to the original. The rest of the album sounds like a paltry imitation of Arthur Lee's work. Love was always the darling of critics and rightfully so, in part because of their lack of success. When the Stones made hits by ripping them off, it seemed unfair to say the least. Aside from that, the album just doesn't work for me personally. I would give it 3 stars at best.
 
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Funny enough, I picked up a Peterson P&B recently, but it's a different version. I haven't listen to it, yet. Another pick up was his Night Train/The Jazz Soul of Oscar Peterson, and I have it in my truck player right now.

I'm like most Dylan fans when it come to Dylan re-doing Dylan, I think it's hit/miss. Hard Rain is one of those, for me.
I think Street Legal deserves a little more credit myself.
 
It's tragically apropos but I have always loved Lou Reed's Berlin album ever since I bought it for about $1.49 in a deleted bin at Woolworth's around 1975. It was largely panned by critics back then though many changed their tune much later.
 
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Montycat said:
It's tragically apropos but I have always loved Lou Reed's Berlin album ever since I bought it for about $1.49 in a deleted bin at Woolworth's around 1975. It was largely panned by critics back then though many changed their tune much later.
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Probably the most depressing album ever recorded. The content it deals with not the music,it is a great record.
 
I have heard critics pan the Allman Brother's "Live At the Fillmore East." A bit self-indulgent in spots but I sure wish I had been there.
 
KiM3Ce said:
I have heard critics pan the Allman Brother's "Live At the Fillmore East." A bit self-indulgent in spots but I sure wish I had been there.
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really? Thats a fantastic album. The later re-release of The Fillmore Sessions which was the live stuff from Brothers and Sisters along with the Fillmore East album is excellent jam tunes.
 
El Monstero is a St. Louis Pink Floyd tribute band that covers the common LP's by the band (DSOTM, Wish You Were Here, The Wall, etc.). Back in 1998 when they first started their escapade down that musical rabbit hole, I wisely suggested they concentrate on the classic era (Piper, Secrets, More, etc.). Lead singer Mark Quinn dryly replied, " No way... nobody would pay to see that obscure music!"

Why are you covering music by an obscure (albeit famous band) group only to cover their most blatantly commercial music??? This is the rhetorical question I ask... :scratch2:
 
KiM3Ce said:
I have heard critics pan the Allman Brother's "Live At the Fillmore East." A bit self-indulgent in spots but I sure wish I had been there.
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Really? I thought I was the only one who never liked this record. I always thought the critics loved it. I would venture to say, most people who bought the record didn't like it either. Of all the copies I've come across to flip (about 10), I never saw a mark on any of 'em.
 
Best Coast's new EP has been getting some mixed reviews this week. One guy called it "perfect rollerskating music". :D To me it's totally harmless, punky, surf rock with silly lyrics. But lots of melody. I'm in. :music:
 
gadget73 said:
really? Thats a fantastic album. The later re-release of The Fillmore Sessions which was the live stuff from Brothers and Sisters along with the Fillmore East album is excellent jam tunes.
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Is that the two CD version that came out in the mid 90's? If so, I enjoy disc one a lot. Disc two, with the long tunes, doesn't get much play.
 
viva -- the live roxy music album. came close to capturing their fantastic live presence. most critics missed the point or thought it had none
 
KrisM said:
I'm like most Dylan fans when it come to Dylan re-doing Dylan, I think it's hit/miss. Hard Rain is one of those, for me.
I think Street Legal deserves a little more credit myself.
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Have you seen Dylan live in the last year or so? They are howling about it. Personally I like his new sound, more like Phil & Friends, with Dylan lyrics.
 
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