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Stop fearing the sub, learn to love it!

No fear. A picture is worth a thousand words:
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Good for you, cubdog. Good for you for finding something you like and good for you for taking the initiative to utilize untapped performance you had at your disposal.

For those of you who have found subs a positive addition to your set up, allow me to suggest the next step toward maximizing what they have to offer.....DRC (digital room correction). A stand alone unit that corrects 160 Hz and down only will set you back about $350, but short of loading your room up with an ungodly amount of bass trapping or subwoofers it is THE best way to make sure the LF response in the room is perfectly balanced.....which is a near impossible feat as every domestic living space will have room nodes and the associated standing waves that disrupt balanced reproduction of the first two octaves of of content. I went from four subs to two with DRC and the results have been overwhelmingly convincing. Unless your subs are just total pieces of crap, all of the negative stereotypes that are generally associated with subwoofers will become problems that belong to someone else when you implement a good DRC unit. I don't get game changers in my hobby very frequently these days...but this one qualifies.

Art, if you think you might ever want to give subs a try again you'd be denying yourself a fair opportunity to see what is truly possible if you neglect to include a proper DRC unit. Using subs without it is a bona fide compromise and IMO you haven't heard what subs can truly add to your rig if you haven't tried them with DRC.

Is it the dspeaker cinema?

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I like running a sub, nothing special in mine and just barely coming in..I would like to try dual subs as I know there is room for improvement but space a premium as well. I have weaned myself off of tone controls now(amp+Tektons cover most of the bases) and really all I ever missed was a bit more bottom end to make up for my lower listening volumes and the sub fills that more or less.
 
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I am using Ohm Walsh 2 speakers sitting on top of REL Q201E subs - The DSPeaker 2.0 is the deal . Full range top to bottom - no boom. Helps making integration easy .
The bass is convincing .
 
Art, if you think you might ever want to give subs a try again you'd be denying yourself a fair opportunity to see what is truly possible if you neglect to include a proper DRC unit. Using subs without it is a bona fide compromise and IMO you haven't heard what subs can truly add to your rig if you haven't tried them with DRC.

The more messing around (tweaking, hardware, setup etc) there is the less I enjoy. But I don't doubt that you all enjoy it and that is what it's all about.
 
I have 10

"There are 11 speakers in our family room so I have to say she is pretty understanding." Understanding? Yes, I suppose she is. That or you have a Carnegie Hall for a living room. Someday you'll have to let us know how you get away with that.

If I add one more she would choke me !
 
Everytime I say this many disagree, but I have to say it. Real, ie full range speakers do not need a sub for music reproduction
 
And guess what I've just ordered you bad man Michael :smoke:

Cry me a river....my wallet took a much larger hit on a pair of 300B SET monos because of you, you sorry bastard. :nono:

Anxious to hear of your venture into the wonderful world of DRC for LF reproduction. Did you get proper subs or are you still using the Advents?
 
Yes it has 2 channels and is a good DAC as well . I am using it in stereo from 500hz and down . It is a good learning tool as well. it is in the tape loop of my passive pre
I can break it out and just use it for the subs .
 
Cry me a river....my wallet took a much larger hit on a pair of 300B SET monos because of you, you sorry bastard. :nono:

Anxious to hear of your venture into the wonderful world of DRC for LF reproduction. Did you get proper subs or are you still using the Advents?

Never actually used the Advents yet. My subs are Wharfie Diamonds.

Yeah I should receive the unit by next week. Let's see how we go.

BTW, you definitely need to try some of the upmarket 300Bs if you haven't already :D
 
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