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Subwoofer to pair with Forte I

ConradH said:
Happy T-Day everybody! Hey, do people still play Alice's Restaurant today?
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DEFTECHY said:
Amps dont/wont make speakers have any more bass than their freq response can produce... fortes have very good bass down to ~32hz but theres is bass lower than that in lots of modern music and especially movies if they are in a home theater application.

A good sub set up right will always add missing low bass below ~40-50hz & boost or complement bass from 99% of speakers.
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Again, some amps simply are not capable of delivering as much bass as others.

I may however try a sub with the X-202.
 
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I’m comparing to bass output of my AR 9’s. Probably unfair. The Klipsch do excel in detail and space!
 
jvstratman said:
Again, some amps simply are not capable of delivering as much bass as others.

I may however try a sub with the X-202.
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Again, just saying that amps cant/wont add or increase the actual bass freq any more than the speaker can produce. Some amps may sound "warmer" or "brighter" than others or have a higher damping factor, but every amp/receiver Ive seen has a freq response range of 20-20k hz, so aside from the sound characteristics of any given amp, they all can or should be able to produce bass down to their rated freq ability. Watts can make a difference too, a 25wpc amp probably cant power bigger full range speakers as well as a higher power 100-200wpc amp and that can "sound" like it isnt producing as much bass at any given volume.

A good quality sub set up right will compliment almost any speaker, worth a try
 
I have 4 rebuilt Fisher 400's. Any of the 4 have bass in spades when driving my upgraded Forte1. The bass tone controls never need to be positioned past 12:00. The bass is rich and deep. I would never consider a sub with that setup.

My other rebuilt Fishers - X-101ST, X-202, & X-100C all require the bass control to be positioned near 3 o'clock.

I'm sure it has to do with the different output tubes, i.e., 7868's vs. 7189's.

My rebuilt Kenwood KR-8010 doesn't provide the rich deep bass with the Forte as well the 400's either.

Btw, the Forte1 have gen1 sonicaps and LMAHL-V2 with B&C DE-10's and fixed L-pads.


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I agree 100% with your theory- It's fact! But, in my room, with my setups, I'm stating what's happening.

"A good quality sub set up right will compliment almost any speaker"
i agree - "Almost"

This is Equine abuse at this point.
 
I have been playing around a little bit with position. The Forte's do have good bass. I think I just have to let my ears adjust.
 
TheAbide said:
as large as you have space and budget for!

as far as wireless goes though you could add an SVS soundpath or similar device to any sub.
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just found this randomly and it seems so much more versatile
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My speakers respond from 20 to 100 HZ +4db , 0db then are smooth go from 100 to 10,000 HZ +/- 2 db then rolling off 6 db at 18,000 HZ +/- 2 db. But let me warn you, when streaming or streaming FM broadcasts to be aware you better have a great LF filter because a lot of the stations and streamers use music taken off LP's. You will find a lot of what they stream has a form of rumble from the Turntables they use or imperfect vinyl the record was made from. CD's, SACD's and DVD-A's don't have the issue has been my experience. So if you want to use subs, you better have that LF on your pre amp, integrated amp. AVR , or receiver. Very low frequencies can be very annoying.

Remember the sub has to move 4 times as much volume of air as the two passive radiators on the backs of the two Fortes combined. So don't think a single 12 inch sub woofer is going to to the job. Because it won't if you want to match the full dynamic range of your Forte's.
 
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