Tarzan's Cheetah passes
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bhundu
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I don't know who Lesner is but I can imagine he's a bad ass cage fighter.
You know, I'd choose the chimp. I might be able to turn my back to him and sit it a corner and start grooming myself. That **** might psych the chimp out. Get in close for the choke! Won't work on a human cage fighter though. Not with me!
You know, I'd choose the chimp. I might be able to turn my back to him and sit it a corner and start grooming myself. That **** might psych the chimp out. Get in close for the choke! Won't work on a human cage fighter though. Not with me!
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Rockin and Rollin....
I found this cool clip from Cheetah's 75th birthday party.. .
Looks like he put on a little weight in his later years..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmM4yn52tIA&feature=related
Looks like he put on a little weight in his later years..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmM4yn52tIA&feature=related
anytune
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The average lifespan for chimps in captivity is 50-60 years, so Cheetah reaching age 80 is quite remarkable.
Some other animal species with very long lifespans include: macaw 80-100 years; eels 150; Japanese koi 200+; Galapagos tortoise 190; bowhead whale 200.
Here's a factoid to dazzle your friends: One species of jellyfish, Turritopsis nutricula, reverts to a sexually immature stage after reproducing, rather than dying as in other jellyfish. As a result, the species is considered biologically immortal and has no maximum lifespan.
Some other animal species with very long lifespans include: macaw 80-100 years; eels 150; Japanese koi 200+; Galapagos tortoise 190; bowhead whale 200.
Here's a factoid to dazzle your friends: One species of jellyfish, Turritopsis nutricula, reverts to a sexually immature stage after reproducing, rather than dying as in other jellyfish. As a result, the species is considered biologically immortal and has no maximum lifespan.
anytune
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You may be right about that. Although I recall years ago at Parrot Jungle in Miami they had a performing blue and gold, whose trainer claimed was 85. In 1970, I watched a bird show at Busch Gardens that featured a scarlet macaw said to be 80. No way to know for sure, of course. Sometimes you have to take their word for it.
bhundu
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Thanks for mentioning. That jellyfish sounds special. I'll look it up tomorrow.
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Rockin and Rollin....
If a Macaw is taken VERY well care of, such as this Chimp must have, then yes, they can live wall past normal expectancy. However, most people who own exotics don't normally know how to really properly care for them diet wise, and because of higher fat diets don't live as long as they could if they lived somewhere a good diet is served.
This is the case with a lot of "wild and exotic" animals. Some live way way beyond what they normally would. Many live a little longer than they would in the wild, and then there are the ones that end up with the wrong "owners"
This is the case with a lot of "wild and exotic" animals. Some live way way beyond what they normally would. Many live a little longer than they would in the wild, and then there are the ones that end up with the wrong "owners"
ZebraBlvd
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Including some of their present evolutionary off-spring named man.
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Rockin and Rollin....
Yeah.. kinda like that guy they just busted who hacked up that little girl to get rid of her once he bashed her head in with a brick..
Some times you just really gotta wonder... We try to tame ourselves, but I believe we still have a lot of instinct and wildness in us after all these thousands of years.. We still got our ugly killing games called war..
Yep, man is scary too..
Some times you just really gotta wonder... We try to tame ourselves, but I believe we still have a lot of instinct and wildness in us after all these thousands of years.. We still got our ugly killing games called war..
Yep, man is scary too..
bhundu
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I saw on the news a few days ago about a guy arrested over illegal species importation. Something like 145 vipers, pythons and adders in his suitcase. Mostly out of Sth America I believe. Apparently he was just a 'mule' for the goods under an International Syndicate.
This kind of stuff has been going on for hundreds/thousands of years. Unfortunately, mostly for curio, statement pieces and gifts. That market is still alive today. Perhaps the same market that paid this courier. Perhaps the same market that sold Cheetah out of his family and land to become a curio. The same ones that put dolphins and whales in swimming pools?
Was it a good thing to do so? Was it in the best interest of the species? Would Cheetah be better off only living 50 years but had a family in a tribe in the forest he was born in? George the cockatoo might have had a similar life if not been in a cage for 100 years. (gershwin). A cage for 100 years!
So blame on the collectors that keep this dirty industy afloat. Nerds with bongs and glass boxes with poor creatures in them. Some with water. Others with rocks. Some with plastic spacemen and others in a pillow case.
This kind of stuff has been going on for hundreds/thousands of years. Unfortunately, mostly for curio, statement pieces and gifts. That market is still alive today. Perhaps the same market that paid this courier. Perhaps the same market that sold Cheetah out of his family and land to become a curio. The same ones that put dolphins and whales in swimming pools?
Was it a good thing to do so? Was it in the best interest of the species? Would Cheetah be better off only living 50 years but had a family in a tribe in the forest he was born in? George the cockatoo might have had a similar life if not been in a cage for 100 years. (gershwin). A cage for 100 years!
So blame on the collectors that keep this dirty industy afloat. Nerds with bongs and glass boxes with poor creatures in them. Some with water. Others with rocks. Some with plastic spacemen and others in a pillow case.
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Rockin and Rollin....
You have no idea how much I think about those same things Bhundu when I look over to my bird...
However, I gave him a lot better future than he ws facing after he was born. He was a rescue, so now he has a real place to call home. Sadly he could never survive in the wild, but at least now he gets lots of attention, good food, and a lot of love.
When he was rescued by the person I got him from, evidently he had a pretty screwed up life like you describe.
Granted, he may spend a lot of time in his cage, but he also spends every moment I'm home out of his cage, unless he wants to go back in, which surprisingly he does a lot, but then again, it's a safe haven to him..
However, I gave him a lot better future than he ws facing after he was born. He was a rescue, so now he has a real place to call home. Sadly he could never survive in the wild, but at least now he gets lots of attention, good food, and a lot of love.
When he was rescued by the person I got him from, evidently he had a pretty screwed up life like you describe.
Granted, he may spend a lot of time in his cage, but he also spends every moment I'm home out of his cage, unless he wants to go back in, which surprisingly he does a lot, but then again, it's a safe haven to him..
bhundu
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Simi. I'd love to go camping with you mate. The discussion would be lively but I'm sure we'd end up best mates. Do you like port?
God love you for looking after your bird. You were not the cause. Just the hand that had to come in and deal with the stuff. I thank you for it. I'd do the same.
But then again, did you have any other alternative for the bird? Local Wildlife Authorities and such? You didn't mention the species. Sparrow? Eagle?
I'm not lookin' after your Baldy!
God love you for looking after your bird. You were not the cause. Just the hand that had to come in and deal with the stuff. I thank you for it. I'd do the same.
But then again, did you have any other alternative for the bird? Local Wildlife Authorities and such? You didn't mention the species. Sparrow? Eagle?
I'm not lookin' after your Baldy!
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Rockin and Rollin....
Oh yeah.. I'm a huge port drinker.. well.. .when I find a good bottle that is. Can't say I've ever taken a bottle camping, but I'd be all over that. We're already planning our big camping trip this next August..
He's a Blue and Gold Macaw. I had always wanted a macaw, but I also had that exact "why should I create another caged animal" syndrome, so never got one... that and how crazy the prices had gotten on them..
Then one day while talking with a member here, I mentioned macaws, and the next thing you know I've got one... or something like that.
There are way too many macaws out there in rescue shelters because the people that think it's a cool pet to have really have no idea it's more like having a 3 year old for the rest of your life... My wife is learning to deal with that thankfully though. She knows he makes me happy, and she gets a good laugh out of him daily... but man oh man had you better know what you're getting into before you ever consider even a rescue.. .I had a really good clue, but I've also learned a few lessons ion the way..
Yes, I'd do it again with him..
He's a Blue and Gold Macaw. I had always wanted a macaw, but I also had that exact "why should I create another caged animal" syndrome, so never got one... that and how crazy the prices had gotten on them..
Then one day while talking with a member here, I mentioned macaws, and the next thing you know I've got one... or something like that.
There are way too many macaws out there in rescue shelters because the people that think it's a cool pet to have really have no idea it's more like having a 3 year old for the rest of your life... My wife is learning to deal with that thankfully though. She knows he makes me happy, and she gets a good laugh out of him daily... but man oh man had you better know what you're getting into before you ever consider even a rescue.. .I had a really good clue, but I've also learned a few lessons ion the way..
Yes, I'd do it again with him..
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