Temecula Valley SYmphony March 19, 2022 Free Concert!
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Well,... got wind?
I forgot how much that stuff sucks when you're trying to record. I've been spoiled by nice sounding concert halls.
The mics above the orchestra,... sound reinforcement for PA broadcast. Do you see a single windscreen in place? (A: nope) And they're large diaphragm condensors, which means the wind has wide open direct access to the rear of the mic capsules, making for wretched wind rumble.
So, I moved as far forward as room would allow, which placed me less than 5' behind the maestro.
Now, how did I address the wind?
1: By going that far forward position, and using lower gain.
2: A laughable amount of wind buffering shielding over my mics.
Güde, my binaural head, he had on an alpaca wool peruvian stocking cap with ear flaps, a small black microfiber towel, and black lace
My Line Audio CM3 sub-cardioid pair, which are slightly directional, making them a bit more wind rumble prone, the had their stock windscreens on, with Dead Rat fur windsocks over that, and, a black microfiber towel velcroed and taped over the whole apparatus.
My binaural head, Güde, is immediately next to, and to the right of the blue towel, behind maestro. The beige towel that i used as wind buffer over Güde is to the right of the blue towel (blue towel used to keep the gear cool in the sun, and so that I could see the levels).
You can see just how far into the orchestra I was able to fly my array (look for blue towel):
So, what will be available for listening?
I only ran two rigs for this one; binaural, and, near-coincident stereo. I have a feeling that the directional mic stereo array is going to have wind rumble, as it was blowing hard enough to cause the stand to wobble a bit in the wind. Directional mics are prone to getting wind rumble, and, I feel this one might be problematic.
I've listened to some of the HRTF stereo quiasi-binaural recording, and, it being done with omnidirectional mics, is far less prone to wind rumble, as the mics can only be affected on the face side of the capsule, and not both sides.
I won't be able to confirm this until tomorrow. For tonight, I'm going to bed.
night all.
more BS as a PS,....
I ran Güde in my HRTF stereo configuration, as I didn't want to be stuck with a pure binaural recording, only.
So, I went with my old stand-by HRTF, which is a quasi-binaural technique that I developed in the mid-80's. This is a technique that I developed going on 35+ years back now, that features binaural essence, but, is speaker friendly to a fine degree.
I forgot how much that stuff sucks when you're trying to record. I've been spoiled by nice sounding concert halls.
The mics above the orchestra,... sound reinforcement for PA broadcast. Do you see a single windscreen in place? (A: nope) And they're large diaphragm condensors, which means the wind has wide open direct access to the rear of the mic capsules, making for wretched wind rumble.
So, I moved as far forward as room would allow, which placed me less than 5' behind the maestro.
Now, how did I address the wind?
1: By going that far forward position, and using lower gain.
2: A laughable amount of wind buffering shielding over my mics.
Güde, my binaural head, he had on an alpaca wool peruvian stocking cap with ear flaps, a small black microfiber towel, and black lace
My Line Audio CM3 sub-cardioid pair, which are slightly directional, making them a bit more wind rumble prone, the had their stock windscreens on, with Dead Rat fur windsocks over that, and, a black microfiber towel velcroed and taped over the whole apparatus.
My binaural head, Güde, is immediately next to, and to the right of the blue towel, behind maestro. The beige towel that i used as wind buffer over Güde is to the right of the blue towel (blue towel used to keep the gear cool in the sun, and so that I could see the levels).
You can see just how far into the orchestra I was able to fly my array (look for blue towel):
So, what will be available for listening?
I only ran two rigs for this one; binaural, and, near-coincident stereo. I have a feeling that the directional mic stereo array is going to have wind rumble, as it was blowing hard enough to cause the stand to wobble a bit in the wind. Directional mics are prone to getting wind rumble, and, I feel this one might be problematic.
I've listened to some of the HRTF stereo quiasi-binaural recording, and, it being done with omnidirectional mics, is far less prone to wind rumble, as the mics can only be affected on the face side of the capsule, and not both sides.
I won't be able to confirm this until tomorrow. For tonight, I'm going to bed.
night all.
more BS as a PS,....
I ran Güde in my HRTF stereo configuration, as I didn't want to be stuck with a pure binaural recording, only.
So, I went with my old stand-by HRTF, which is a quasi-binaural technique that I developed in the mid-80's. This is a technique that I developed going on 35+ years back now, that features binaural essence, but, is speaker friendly to a fine degree.
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mfrench
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Temecula Valley Symphony &
Temecula Valley Youth Symphony
The Carnival of Music
March 19, 2022
saturday 3pm
Temecula Amphitheater
Temecula, Ca
Maestros - John Mario and Dr. Zun-Hin Woo
featuring Temecula Valley Symphony (TVS) - TV Youth Symphony (TVYS) - TV Junior Youth Symphony (TVJYS)
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program:
house-in
Lord of the Rings (The Fellowship of the Rings) — Howard Shore - arr. Whitney
preamble
Wizard of Oz — Harold Arlen - arr. Charles Sayre
preamble
Danza de mi Corazon — Steven Rosenhaus
preamble
Themes from Irish Suite pt.1 — Leroy Anderson - adapted by Douglas Wagner
preamble
Procession of the Sardar — Nicolai Ippolitov
preamble
Concerto for Two Violins, 1st Movement — JS Bach
preamble
Buglers Holiday — Leroy Anderson
preamble
Symphony no.2 1st movement — Beethoven
<< intermission >>
preamble
Highlights from Wicked — Stephen Schwartz - arr. Ted Ricketts
preamble
Symphony no.104 — Franz Joseph Haydn
preamble
Carmen Suite — no.1 movement VI (Les Toreadors) Georges Bizet
preamble
76 Trombones - Leroy Anderson
<< fin >>
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Ambient Stereo Recordings by Mike French
TFH — A Journey to the Impact Zone
Sennheiser MKE2002 HRTF stereo Güde -> Roland R09HR 2448
Line Audio CM3 wide-ORTF stereo -> Tascam DR70D 2448
Sennheiser MKE2 PZM-BLE on Güdes box -> Tascam DR70D 2448
All mics at stage-edge, on rock wall directly behind the maestro
Outdoor amphitheater concert
WINDY!!! The mics were buried within anti-wind baffles; dead rats, alpaca cap, towels, black lace; everything that I had, i put onto the mics!
Please, listen to some samples at the LMA links, before d/l'ing. It was an outdoor, windy concert. I ended up going in closer than I normally do; so there is some imbalance.
The MKE2002 HRTF-stereo files are the only ones that will be uploaded due to the wind noise in the other mics.
How this recording might be better than the house mix,....
In speaking to the soundman for the show, he suggested that he had the High Pass Filter at full tilt, dropping the bass at 400hz, which totally kills the bass, and, the cellos, and other low frequency instruments. This was done to try to kill the massive wind rumble through the PA system.
My recording was able to capture the bass instrumentation, because I buried the mics in wind baffling, rather than HPF roll-off.
I do hope you'll enjoy!
1644 resolution:
https://archive.org/details/tvs2022-03-19.mke2002hrtf.1644
2448 resolution:
https://archive.org/details/tvs2022-03-19.mke2002hrtf.2448
HRTF stereo:
more BS'n in PS edit mode,....
Before anyone gets too critical of the performance, a word about this collaboration.
This is the main TVS orchestra players, in a mentoring/protege relationship with student musicians. Some of the players range from perhaps 8y.o.->12y.o. for the Junior Youth Symphony
The Youth Symphony is comprised of perhaps 12y.o. -> up to 18y.o. high school students.
So, the main focus was a concert to help teach the protege about the concert experience, and, for the parents.
Temecula Valley Youth Symphony
The Carnival of Music
March 19, 2022
saturday 3pm
Temecula Amphitheater
Temecula, Ca
Maestros - John Mario and Dr. Zun-Hin Woo
featuring Temecula Valley Symphony (TVS) - TV Youth Symphony (TVYS) - TV Junior Youth Symphony (TVJYS)
~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~
program:
house-in
Lord of the Rings (The Fellowship of the Rings) — Howard Shore - arr. Whitney
preamble
Wizard of Oz — Harold Arlen - arr. Charles Sayre
preamble
Danza de mi Corazon — Steven Rosenhaus
preamble
Themes from Irish Suite pt.1 — Leroy Anderson - adapted by Douglas Wagner
preamble
Procession of the Sardar — Nicolai Ippolitov
preamble
Concerto for Two Violins, 1st Movement — JS Bach
preamble
Buglers Holiday — Leroy Anderson
preamble
Symphony no.2 1st movement — Beethoven
<< intermission >>
preamble
Highlights from Wicked — Stephen Schwartz - arr. Ted Ricketts
preamble
Symphony no.104 — Franz Joseph Haydn
preamble
Carmen Suite — no.1 movement VI (Les Toreadors) Georges Bizet
preamble
76 Trombones - Leroy Anderson
<< fin >>
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Ambient Stereo Recordings by Mike French
TFH — A Journey to the Impact Zone
Sennheiser MKE2002 HRTF stereo Güde -> Roland R09HR 2448
Line Audio CM3 wide-ORTF stereo -> Tascam DR70D 2448
Sennheiser MKE2 PZM-BLE on Güdes box -> Tascam DR70D 2448
All mics at stage-edge, on rock wall directly behind the maestro
Outdoor amphitheater concert
WINDY!!! The mics were buried within anti-wind baffles; dead rats, alpaca cap, towels, black lace; everything that I had, i put onto the mics!
Please, listen to some samples at the LMA links, before d/l'ing. It was an outdoor, windy concert. I ended up going in closer than I normally do; so there is some imbalance.
The MKE2002 HRTF-stereo files are the only ones that will be uploaded due to the wind noise in the other mics.
How this recording might be better than the house mix,....
In speaking to the soundman for the show, he suggested that he had the High Pass Filter at full tilt, dropping the bass at 400hz, which totally kills the bass, and, the cellos, and other low frequency instruments. This was done to try to kill the massive wind rumble through the PA system.
My recording was able to capture the bass instrumentation, because I buried the mics in wind baffling, rather than HPF roll-off.
I do hope you'll enjoy!
1644 resolution:
https://archive.org/details/tvs2022-03-19.mke2002hrtf.1644
2448 resolution:
https://archive.org/details/tvs2022-03-19.mke2002hrtf.2448
HRTF stereo:
more BS'n in PS edit mode,....
Before anyone gets too critical of the performance, a word about this collaboration.
This is the main TVS orchestra players, in a mentoring/protege relationship with student musicians. Some of the players range from perhaps 8y.o.->12y.o. for the Junior Youth Symphony
The Youth Symphony is comprised of perhaps 12y.o. -> up to 18y.o. high school students.
So, the main focus was a concert to help teach the protege about the concert experience, and, for the parents.
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I'm a fan of the Portsmouth Sinfonia. I don't think I'll be rattled by the odd bum note:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Sinfonia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Sinfonia
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