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The dim bulb?

Larryhere40

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Sorry to ask such a simple?? I am a diy and I love doing repairs now that I have retired! I see the tech ‘s using the dim bulb thing for the first power up! One, is the bulb a simple 110 volt? Two, Is it wired in series with the amp/receiver plug. And three, how do you apply it to the test? I see that it might save on burning out more stuff! I with I had a working adjustable voltage unit! That’s my next project! Thanks in advance, really appreciate it, Larry
 
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Pretty much self explanatory. Add a plug-in bulb socket and you are done. It all will fit in a 4"square box.
 
A DBT is simply an **incandescent** bulb in series with the power line. An incandescent bulb has a fairly unique property that as more current passes through it, its resistance goes up. So if you have that bulb in series and the unit under test (UUT) draws more current than you expect, the resistance of the DBT will increase and limit current to the UUT to a greater extent than a simple resistor would. Couple of caveats - You *must* use an incandescent bulb. A CFL or an LED does not exhibit the same behavior and will be useless. The bulb must be sized considering the expected idle current the UUT would normally draw. If you expect that receiver to normally draw 20 watts idle, then you would want to use a bulb rated 3 - 4 times that wattage. In most cases, a 75 - 100 watt bulb is a good choice. With a low power unit you might start at a 40W bulb, and an ear blaster may need a 150W (or two 75's in parallel) bulb.

Some people like to use a variac to control the input voltage. While that can be helpful (particularly if you monitor the current as you increase the voltage), IMHO a DBT is a superior tool for protecting the sections of a receiver/amplifier that are not already fried.

Another thing to be aware of is that many new units are going to switch mode power supplies. Trying to 'start' a SMPS at lower than rated voltage can be problematic. This is because a SMPS looks like a negative resistance - it will draw more current at lower input voltages. If you have a SMPS that would normally draw 1 amp at its rated 120 VAC input, and you try to sneak up on the input voltage, you may find the power supply trying to start at 60 VAC by drawing 2 amps. Not a stable situation with either a variac or a DBT.
 
Look at it this way ( I'm a dummy, too) -- a dim bulb tester it both a visual amp meter -- the more current that flows, the brighter the bulb -- AND a current limiter. As the tungsten filament heats up, it goes higher and higher in resistance (which is why you don't blow a fuse with a big incandescent bulb).

In a testing situation, for instance a new to you integrated amp in unknown condition, a dim bulb tester should glow bright for a second or so as the main filter capacitors charge up and then go dim but not out. How bright it stays depends on the current draw of the unit with no input and volume set to zero. The higher the rated output wattage, the more juice it will pull quiescent.

If the filament stays bright, you have a high current draw from something that needs to be fixed before you plug it into mains power -- if you don't, something is likely to smoke.

The current limiting effect allows you to troubleshoot without frying semiconductors.
 
Actually, if the bulb DOES NOT DIM there is a problem. It is normal to see the bulb come on brightly when first powering up a UUT, and then dimming to a dull glow of even totally off as the UUTs input capacitors charge.

This is the simplest and most accurate info imo. A bit of a peak on turn on, then should dim at idle, if bright, shut off and find what's drawing high current.

High current is what makes the bulb glow brightly, high current caused by the uut of course.
The way I see it, bulb is in parallel with load or uut, so it steals voltage from the uut to prevent some damage.

Just a good quick visual snapshot at uut.
 
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the lamp is in series with the load.
The lamp has a hot and cold resistance
The cold filament is lower resistance than the hot
On my unit I have a switch in series and a switch across the lamp
 
I'm having a hard time finding incandescent lamps for one of these testers. They're all LED now, and won't work in that application.
There are many online stores to get incandescent E26 base (household) bulbs if you can't find any locally. "Rough Service" bulbs will work too and are 130v. Not that you "need" 130v bulbs, but they take a few "oops!" moments without breaking the filament.
Here are just a few doing a quick internet search.. And there are many more to choose from...
https://www.lightbulbsdirect.com/incandescent
https://www.1000bulbs.com/fil/categories/incandescent-light-bulbs
https://www.bulbamerica.com/pages/incandescent-bulbs
 
Thanks for the info!! I have searched my service manuals and on the back of 2 sta2100d units and can’t find a watts usage! The manual claims 600 max watts? Any suggestion for bulb size (watt). Thanks again
 
Thanks for the info!! I have searched my service manuals and on the back of 2 sta2100d units and can’t find a watts usage! The manual claims 600 max watts? Any suggestion for bulb size (watt). Thanks again
I have several sizes depenting on what I am working on. For the STA2100D units I start with a 60 watt and if all seems well bump up to a 100w for running tests with. At idle that receiver (zero volume and no signal) should only draw about 30 - 35 watts and will have a "soft dim glow" if the BIAS current isn't set too high. And be aware you cannot turn up the volume on a 60w DBT any more than a tiny smiget just to see if there is any sound. A DBT starves the amp for current and voltage so it is to be used for "testing for shorts" mainly. My bulb lineup starts at 15w, 25w, 60w, 100w, 150w, and 300w (for the hungry monsters). But just a 60w and a 100w will do for 90% of all receivers.
 
I'm having a hard time finding incandescent lamps for one of these testers. They're all LED now, and won't work in that application.
Just ask for industrial heavy duty bulbs at any good building, electrical supply, or even home improvement store. These typically have thicker glass also.
 
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