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The Mordaunt-Short Owners Thread

Felt I needed to share the knowlege I've gained on the MS400 in the time I've owned them for those who care. As far as I can tell, there's three versions of these speakers;

The first and original late 60s design used a 10" woofer, along with a KEF T15 mid/tweeeter and the Coles 4001K super tweeter.

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The next revision saw the 10" woofer dropped in favor of an elliptical EMI 92390GF woofer. I've been told this was done to avoid paying purchase tax in the UK by claiming the speakers are "Professional grade" therefore making them exempt. (early 70s)

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The final and last revision (My version) the KEF T15 was replaced with what I assume is a A/D/S 2" mid/tweeter with a custom baffle made specifically for the MS400. (Mid 70s)

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From what I can tell from the brochures these speakers where made to order and are pretty rare, I've yet to see a model with a serial no. higher than 3000.

All the brochures I've managed to acquire.

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I've had about five months to get acquainted with these speakers and I still love them, they have a very soft sound, on the warmer side of neutral and have oodles of mid range clarity and detail. That EMI woofer also puts in some good work and reaches down pretty far into the high 20Hz range, even on the floor the mid bass is clear with no boom to speak of. The Coles 4001's speak for themselves.
 
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I will be a member of the mordaunt short club on tuesday when picking up a vintage pair of behemoths. More details to follow...;)
 
Been home about 30 minutes and only tested 1 speaker so far and it sounds superb on instrumental music. Playing some santana as i type and its nice :)
 
Nice. I wound up with a set of MS35ti's when I first started getting involved with enjoying my music and I find them hard to beat for the 100 I paid for them in excellent condition.
 
I had a pair of ms20i pearl edition last year and they sounded superb. I remember ringing my dad to come round and listen to them. They can be had for £30
 
Been home about 30 minutes and only tested 1 speaker so far and it sounds superb on instrumental music. Playing some santana as i type and its nice :)

I find that my MS-400's really excell with percussion and vocals.

A few updates on my MS-400s I decided to rewire them since the original wiring was a little on the wimpy side, might be placebo but it sounds like it kinda helped the high end.

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I also replaced the old completely rotten away baffle plate gasket, this made a tremendous difference, really tightening up the bass.

Before:

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After:

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The old gasket material was very hard to remove and took a good amount of scraping with a screwdriver though some of it did peel up.

Nasty old gasket material.

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Ill do a recap of the crossovers on these in the next week or 2 as im sure they are due for replacement. I have the original brochure with the speakers and it also shows the other speakers in the range, so ill upload here when i get a second. Working 6 days on the run at moment so wont get much time to tinker with them. Those ms 400 speakers look in superb condition
 
Ill do a recap of the crossovers on these in the next week or 2 as im sure they are due for replacement. I have the original brochure with the speakers and it also shows the other speakers in the range, so ill upload here when i get a second. Working 6 days on the run at moment so wont get much time to tinker with them. Those ms 400 speakers look in superb condition

Nice I bet they'll sound amazing after. Yep, the where pretty well looked after by the previous owner so I just fed them a little oil then shined them up with some beeswax. If your MS-737s have the Mullard "tropical fish" film capacitors I'd suggest you leave them in, they have a nice sound to them and unlike electrolytics don't go bad with age.
 
What did you use for the gasket?

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I bought this stuff off eBay and just overlapped the foam at the edges to get a tight seal, I wouldn't suggest anything thicker than 1.5mm, I first tried 4.5mm thick foam and couldn't get the baffle plate to sit flush, 5m of 1.5mm thick foam did the trick sticks really well to the wood and compresses enough to let the baffle sit flush and provides a good tight seal.
 
In regard to the ms-737 they have developed a few issues. They had been stored in a garage for 20 years plus before i picked them. One kef sp1014 was rattling as noticed the rubber surround was lifted all around the driver. After being centralised and reglued it is still no better. Ive tried turning it 180 degrees and makes no difference.

One speaker terminal screw plate is broken and will a new modern replacement. Im thinking banana posts but the terminals are so close to each other it might not work.

I have been listening to the other speaker in mono for a total of about 4 hours and one of the drivers is now also rattling. It is the top driver in both cabinet that needs replacing. Looks like as the speakers are acclimatising to their new warm premises they are falling apart!

Ill have to put them to one side until i find a nice matched pair 8 ohm kef drivers.
 
I'm not familiar with the failure modes of B200s but other than the roll surround the other obvious things are cone to spider/spider to basket or voice coil issues. Assuming of course hardware is all done up tight, but you've remounted the driver so that should be ok.

Interesting speakers so feel free to share more photos.
 
From that I think you have the older ones, like mine, from early to mid 1980's. How long have you had them? I think the tweeters were made by Peerless and they sound really smooth, very nice. The crossover caps are electrolytic so I suspect they should be replaced at this age, which could make them brighter. I'd also like to try them without the positec devices.

There was a later MS30 (~1995) and a MS30i which presumably was an updated version. One or both got quite positive reviews at the time.
 
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