The Yaqin MC-10L - Revisited

M Jarve

Audio Geek and NGE Freak
It's been over 8 years since I bought the Yaqin MC-10L (you can read my original thoughts on the amp here) integrated amp, and almost 6 years since it's been in regular use. Indeed, it hadn't even been powered up since the completion of the Sub-Compact DIY speaker project finished in December of 2010. This should not be construed as disliking or getting bored with the Yaqin, simply that my speakers of choice, a DIY re-hash of the Infinity Quantum 3, were not well serviced by the relatively modest power output of a classic EL34-based amp; the combined might of 4 harmon/kardon hk775 monoblocks were better suited to the task. However, a change in circumstances gave me a bit more flexibility to put the Yaqin back into play, recently.

My system is currently setup in the third-floor room at Mark B's house, and while overall larger than my listening room at home, it's better proportioned for positioning equipment and speakers. Over this last weekend, I pulled the Yaqin out of storage and fired it up.

Currently, it's sporting a set of vintage Ampex/Mullard EL34's for the power stage, RCA 6CG7/6FQ7 for the line stage, and Orel 6H1π for the driver stage. The, as mentioned, hadn't been powered up for almost 6 years, and had been stored in a garage. I was not sure what to expect- blown tubes or a noisy volume pot or input switch, but I connected up my iPhone and the speakers (still my DIY Q3's), and powered it up. Everything worked just as it did many years ago, and the amp seemed no worse for not having been used.

Playing music, a wide selection ranging from Ladytron to Nobuo Uematsu, I was immediatly reminded of what made me fall in love with this amp in the first place. The incredibly alive vocals, the holographic (spooky-good) imaging, the sense that the performers were in the room with me (or I was at the venue, as the case may be). While of course it cannot compete for sustained, high-volume listening with my normal quad of h/k monoblocks, it does compete in transient dynamic range, being able to imitate a more powerful amp for short periods of time. But, I must say that even considering the speakers and the room, it went quite loud enough for all but the most loud listening. And, as I've noted before, I tend to hold imaging capability and bandwidth in higher regard than dynamics. The combination of my Musical Fidelity preamp and the h/k's get me 90-95% of the imagining magic of the Yaqin, but for most listening the Yaqin gets me >95% of the dynamics of the former. Indeed, I think I may keep the Yaqin on the rack longer than I planned, and it will likely regain its place as my reference unit.
 
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Yeah but it's Chinese so it doesn't matter what you say or how it sounds something something about transformers and manufacturing it's definitely junk and Chinese are evil.
 
After I went the Chinese tube route with my Musical Paradise 401 mk2 amp, I'm a believer that there's huge value to be found.

I'm glad the Yaqin is still serving you well. Just out of curiosity, what's the sensitivity on those diy Q3s?
 
I don't get it:

You bought an amp 8 years ago,mothballed it in a garage for 6 years as it was unsuitable for your needs/application,but now you drag it out and give it a glowing evaluation.
To top it all off,you now say that you prefer other sonic aspects over dynamic output,which was your initially stated reason for mothballing it in the first place.

I may be getting old,but I don't think I've gone stupid just yet........
 
After I went the Chinese tube route with my Musical Paradise 401 mk2 amp, I'm a believer that there's huge value to be found.

I'm glad the Yaqin is still serving you well. Just out of curiosity, what's the sensitivity on those diy Q3s?

I have not seen an official sensitivity rating on them, but the brochure recommends an amp of about 35-watts or higher. As close as I can tell they're in the mid 80's at one meter, at about 1.5-volts RMS (appox. 1-watt into 4 ohms) at 1kHz per using an iPod as a signal source, a RadioShack analog SPL meter, and a Fluke DMM.

I don't get it:

You bought an amp 8 years ago,mothballed it in a garage for 6 years as it was unsuitable for your needs/application,but now you drag it out and give it a glowing evaluation.
To top it all off,you now say that you prefer other sonic aspects over dynamic output,which was your initially stated reason for mothballing it in the first place.

I may be getting old,but I don't think I've gone stupid just yet........

Probably both. If you read my post, you noticed I moved the system into a different location, with different acoustical properties; indeed it was just this change that lead me to think that the Yaqin would be better suited than the kit I had been running. Going from an unfinished basement to a proper room is a big change. I would recommend, perhaps, reading my previous postings with an eye towards the evolution of my system and tastes before you reach for a glass of water to swallow your foot.;)
 
Probably both. If you read my post, you noticed I moved the system into a different location, with different acoustical properties; indeed it was just this change that lead me to think that the Yaqin would be better suited than the kit I had been running. Going from an unfinished basement to a proper room is a big change. I would recommend, perhaps, reading my previous postings with an eye towards the evolution of my system and tastes before you reach for a glass of water to swallow your foot.;)

And I would recommend,perhaps,that you more clearly describe these ''big changes'' initially rather than just assuming that everybody has a crystal ball with which to observe your listening environment and ''evolving tastes'' and coming across more as an advertising copy writer for the manufacturer of the amplifier in question.
 
And I would recommend,perhaps,that you more clearly describe these ''big changes'' initially rather than just assuming that everybody has a crystal ball with which to observe your listening environment and ''evolving tastes'' and coming across more as an advertising copy writer for the manufacturer of the amplifier in question.
Good Grief! Time was that one could muse about something in these forums without being accused of being a shill. Are you going to take that I thoroughly enjoyed IMF TLS-50 as "advertising copy"? Must be true for my hk775's, Sansui 5000X, Musical Fidelity Pre, and Citation 16 as well. Perhaps I'm in the employ of Wharfedale, Kenwood, and Yamaha? Better crank your cynicism knob to 11.

I haven't posted much in the public forums for years, and now I'm starting to think that doing so is a mistake. Things have changed...
 
Not a mistake...let's not give credence to every anal retentive post by someone who should just keep quiet if they don't have any valuable information to add to the discussion. We are trying to get information here....not flames....I have some Yaqin equipment and I will say that, overall, their products are a value buy. So much so that I am now interested in adding a preamp or amp to the Yaqin phono stages that I currently own. I own a number of different types of phono stages, preamps and power and integrated amps. There are some excellent forums and groups out on this cloud of info that are very positive about Yaqin products. Let's not nitpick about semantics and go for the more positive goal of obtaining information about viable audio products. Just my 2 cents.
 
It's been over 8 years since I bought the Yaqin MC-10L (you can read my original thoughts on the amp here) integrated amp, and almost 6 years since it's been in regular use. Indeed, it hadn't even been powered up since the completion of the Sub-Compact DIY speaker project finished in December of 2010. This should not be construed as disliking or getting bored with the Yaqin, simply that my speakers of choice, a DIY re-hash of the Infinity Quantum 3, were not well serviced by the relatively modest power output of a classic EL34-based amp; the combined might of 4 harmon/kardon hk775 monoblocks were better suited to the task. However, a change in circumstances gave me a bit more flexibility to put the Yaqin back into play, recently.

My system is currently setup in the third-floor room at Mark B's house, and while overall larger than my listening room at home, it's better proportioned for positioning equipment and speakers. Over this last weekend, I pulled the Yaqin out of storage and fired it up.

Currently, it's sporting a set of vintage Ampex/Mullard EL34's for the power stage, RCA 6CG7/6FQ7 for the line stage, and Orel 6H1π for the driver stage. The, as mentioned, hadn't been powered up for almost 6 years, and had been stored in a garage. I was not sure what to expect- blown tubes or a noisy volume pot or input switch, but I connected up my iPhone and the speakers (still my DIY Q3's), and powered it up. Everything worked just as it did many years ago, and the amp seemed no worse for not having been used.

Playing music, a wide selection ranging from Ladytron to Nobuo Uematsu, I was immediatly reminded of what made me fall in love with this amp in the first place. The incredibly alive vocals, the holographic (spooky-good) imaging, the sense that the performers were in the room with me (or I was at the venue, as the case may be). While of course it cannot compete for sustained, high-volume listening with my normal quad of h/k monoblocks, it does compete in transient dynamic range, being able to imitate a more powerful amp for short periods of time. But, I must say that even considering the speakers and the room, it went quite loud enough for all but the most loud listening. And, as I've noted before, I tend to hold imaging capability and bandwidth in higher regard than dynamics. The combination of my Musical Fidelity preamp and the h/k's get me 90-95% of the imagining magic of the Yaqin, but for most listening the Yaqin gets me >95% of the dynamics of the former. Indeed, I think I may keep the Yaqin on the rack longer than I planned, and it will likely regain its place as my reference unit.
Try rolling with some new PSVanes or better yet a matched set of top of the line Chinese. None of the Yaqin's like vintage Ampex or NOS much. AND thru some modern designed efficient (90db or better) speakers. I speak from first hand experience.

Also, remember the Yaqin VK-2100 mods you once posted (to rewire to 12a*7's)? Fried the transistors in mine and was a royal PITA.
 
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