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This is Wild (to me anyway -- you guys I'm sure already know)

lini said:
No, it isn't - because "a blocky sine wave" won't be the actual outpout after the reconstruction filter.
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fair enough. it won't be a blocky sine wave when it leaves the reconstruction filter.

the fact that it WAS a "blocky sine wave" at any point in the digital realm was my point.

coming out of the dac, it is ones and zeros and it IS "blocky."

after it leaves the dac, it goes to the reconstruction filter for smoothing.

and i was wrong. it is the bit depth that makes a smaller grid, not oversampling.
 
SONDEKNZ said:
I think we can agree that there was no electricity before the stylus moved
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Scientifically this device is called a transducer. A device that converts one form of energy into another. Speakers are also transducers.

No magic to it, making brand new electricity, just science. The energy that is used to turn the platter, moving platter now the source of energy, is converted by the stylus into heat the lowest form of energy quality and electricity and more.
 
SONDEKNZ said:
My question is: Are you doing this yourself and if so, exactly what do you use to record your LPs at 24/96?
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Yes, I am and it's really not that difficult. There are a number of ways to do it, but I favor a small Tascam recorder that makes excellent recordings in 96/24, 24bit. Here it is, but I think there is a newer version:

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TASCAM has developed a recording equipment and tools for music production for musicians and creators.
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Record onto an SD card, plug that in your pc when done and load the file into Audacity. You'll need to familiarize yourself with that program if you haven't already. Save the files in FLAC if you want to embed album art, or just leave it in WAV format which is what the Tascam records in. Once in Audacity, you will next split the file containing all the tracks into individual tracks. You'll see how it works once you know Audacity. Then, you have some mighty fine replicas of the vinyl you listen to on your turntable and the really good part is you can take it with you, on a flashdrive for instance, and plug it into any device that will read it. I do that in my car and in my camper where I have head units that will play those hi res files and it sounds excellent! Lately I've also gone to putting them on my iPhone and playing wirelessly in the car and camper as both of those units have wireless network capabilities. It makes road trips and camping in the woods, listening around a campfire (have external speakers and a custom subwoofer I built) such a joy! Good luck, amigo and let me know if I can help you further......

PS - Be careful, before you know it you will be recording all your albums preferring the sound over your redbook CDs!!!!
 
Blue Shadow said:
Scientifically this device is called a transducer. A device that converts one form of energy into another. Speakers are also transducers.

No magic to it, making brand new electricity, just science. The energy that is used to turn the platter, moving platter now the source of energy, is converted by the stylus into heat the lowest form of energy quality and electricity and more.
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Indeed.
 
Mangler said:
Producers and artists of the past spent a lot of time and money using the equipment and technology available to them to make their music sound the best it could on the equipment consumers were actually using. Nobody was thinking, “How is this going to sound when it's digitally remastered 55 years from now?”

IMO, when you play an original vinyl pressing, you're hearing the music and decisions that were made for the time it was produced. I'm not saying vinyl didn't have limitations, of course it did, and engineers had to work around those limitations. But every format has limitations.

That's part of the appeal of vinyl to me. Not... vinyl is superior to digital, it's that you're hearing a version of the recording that was actually created and mastered for the time it came from.
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As in the jazz classic "Kind of Blue".
 
Parallax982 said:
That Rotel turntable I was posting about a couple of weeks back is up and running. Managed to get some good cleaning fluid and a brush and some of the cheap LPs I picked up at Goodwill sound surprisingly good.

Tonight I decided to find the same album on Qobuz and stream them back to back. Of course the stream had no pops or clicks and in some sense sounded perfectly. But when I switched to the table, despite the imperfections, there was something intangible and particularly appealing. Maybe it's just my imagination (because it is subtle) but I don't think so.

Experienced something similar when I compared YouTube Music to Qobuz. Went for the Qobuz subscription because I could hear the improvement in quality with lossless, but it wasn't uniformly superior. There was a different quality with a set of tradeoffs. Subtle ones but clearly real.

I'm experiencing something similar except that, surprising to me, I like whatever this is and the crackling (still running old records, cleaner but still not ideal) isn't really bothering me. I don't have words for the difference. It's not exactly warmer or richer. Maybe realer (more real if you prefer) in some way.
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Even order distortion sounds "warm"
 
curtisw99 said:
Even order distortion sounds "warm"
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I like calling them even-order harmonics. It sounds better.

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Parallax982 said:
That Rotel turntable I was posting about a couple of weeks back is up and running. Managed to get some good cleaning fluid and a brush and some of the cheap LPs I picked up at Goodwill sound surprisingly good.

Tonight I decided to find the same album on Qobuz and stream them back to back. Of course the stream had no pops or clicks and in some sense sounded perfectly. But when I switched to the table, despite the imperfections, there was something intangible and particularly appealing. Maybe it's just my imagination (because it is subtle) but I don't think so.
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It was back in 1992 when he wrote it, but I still think this paragraph from a Stereophile article by Martin Colloms ("Pace, Rhythm, & Dynamics") explains my enjoyment of vinyl:

"For all its quantifiable technical faults, easily identified in the laboratory when compared with the measured near-perfection of CD, the vinyl LP disc possesses a powerful and effortlessly musical content, with an easy, fundamental rhythmic stability and solidity. Interestingly, this innate character seems to be quite robust, more so than digital. Subjectively rewarding results may be obtained from analog sources without much trouble. Many well-established but not necessarily high-priced components may be assembled to produce musically satisfying results. With analog, one can listen through the blemishes and be aware of a strong musical message, one in which the music's flow, pace, and tempo are well conveyed, and into which the listener is drawn."

A little more recently, in 2010, What HiFi's review of the AT-LP120-USB included, "Playing a heavyweight pressing of Four Tet's There Is Love In You, the Audio-Technica demonstrates the sort of deft facility with timing and rhythmic organisation that makes vinyl many listeners' format of choice."
 
The thing is not whether a recording is digital or analog, the problem is the CD with its 44100 Hz / 16 bit. What I love to listen to are modern Jazz recording, made by small indpendent labels (mostly). They use high-res studio equipment, know how to use it. And then press it on Vinyl. Wonderful! Best of both worlds.

Especially on my Dual 1019 with ADC brick ...
 
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