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To the Technics bashers...

I find a major difference between 'Technics' and Technics by Panasonic. Won't be a prude and tell you my preference! he he :thmbsp:

Well I'LL be the prude, then :). Give me a piece of equipment that says Technics by Panasonic any day! In my opinion the stuff made while they were still publicly under the wing of Panasonic was of far better quality; I bought an SA-500 new in 1978 and only retired it 10 years or so later because of some noise in the controls, noise that I now know is just corrosion that I could probably Deoxit away.

I continued buying their stuff after they dropped the Panasonic logo, but I also felt their products quickly eroded in the early 80's. Crazy as this is gonna sound to some, I thought the by Panasonic logo gave it more class as well as some recognition apart from other makers.
 
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When I bought my Technics gear, it was under the wing of Matsushita, I think Technics was their hifi name range? Panasonic used to be National brand, didnt it..all still part of the Matsushita group.......
 
80wpc, 4 x 15,000uF caps, potted transformer. I've got one in my livingroom right now and might never sell it. I found mine at the dump... filthy but otherwise in perfect working order.

I'm very happy with it so far. It, along with the SA-5370 I picked up a few months before, are @ my buddy's place getting a good once over and a cleaning. He did an awesome job on my old Kenwood KR-5030, so I except the same with these two.
 
I'm loving my Techinics SA-410! Its a great amp. Radio sucks on it though but I don't listen to local radio much anyway.
 
My first receiver was a Technics SA-5170 and it was great for what it was, but it was a 25 watt receiver.....I do plan on buying another xx70 receiver, but want to find one with more power. It had a nice look to it, understated but lovely to my eyes.

My second receiver was the Technics SA-500 and I definitely intend to own another one of those or higher from that series. Great to look at and great to listen to.

Past that I don't intend to buy any other receivers from the Technics line; I've owned plenty past that just by upgrading over the decades. The 80's were indeed bad hair days for Technics in my eyes; I didn't much care for the appearance then nor do I now, even though I owned a few. The 90's and past Technics receivers looked okay but they do have a bpc look to them, too. Not that I refuse to own one - if I come across one for dirt cheap I'll pick it up, but I won't be searching those out like I will the seventies models.


My introduction to the music world came with purchasing an SA 200 back in 79 and I still have the receiver to this day. The receiver has never been turned off in the last 2 years I bet, I leave it on in the room I do my vinyl transfers to cd. The only respect I yet have for this receiver is the phono stage/preamp which is a marvel compared to anything made that day and afterwards as far as how quiet it is while being able to bring the cart voltage to respectable levels. It hasn't seen any speakers hooked up to it in the last 15 years, but I can tell you this...it has stayed on and is never turned off and I've NEVER had any issues with it, still retains all original parts but one. A rectifier went out under warranty back in 81 I think...never had any issue with it since except your typical dirty pots. I'll give this receiver props in that respect. But my baby is a gorgeous Sansui G-9000 that would make you cry if you heard it with the components I have.
 
My first audio setup (fall '76) included an SA-5460 receiver, an SL-23 TT and a pair of KLH (364?)speakers. I think I used my high-school graduation gift money. I always thought that I got the most audio for my money. Of course, my friends with the Marantz and Pioneer receivers felt a bit of superiority, but I don't think they could honestly boast better sound. Have had a special place in my heart for Technics ever since!
We must be twins! Your first fits mine to a "T" except I purchased the HPM-60's instead, but the rest of your bio even the year couldn't be truer. I still have all 3 to date, unfortunately the SA-5460's tuning gear bracket cracked, that grey pot metal piece. The receiver still works like a charm except for the tuner so I've put it in storage for now, looking for a replacement bracket in the mean time. Part was never issued seperately from what I can tell from my SM. I've been watching the -bay for a 54xx for a parts unit but most have the same fault. Technics blew that one for sure. Hopefully someday I'll find one and then recap my SA-5460 and relive my past.
 
My first receiver was a Technics SA-5170 and it was great for what it was, but it was a 25 watt receiver.....I do plan on buying another xx70 receiver, but want to find one with more power. It had a nice look to it, understated but lovely to my eyes.

My second receiver was the Technics SA-500 and I definitely intend to own another one of those or higher from that series. Great to look at and great to listen to.

Just pulled the trigger on a Technics SA-5470 on the 'bay. I liked the looks of the x00 series more, but the xx70 series was my first.... I feel like I have one to honor that series. I've not owned one from the xx70 lineup since I traded my 5170 in on my SA-500 back in 1978. I'm hoping this one will be a keeper :yes:
 
I have always been happy with Technics equipment. Every brand of everything has it's own little idiosyncrasies. If you like it, that's what counts. Reminds me of an old poster, It said " I may not know art, but I know what I like". The poster was a picture of 6 Budweiser cans in a row. I like it.
I have an SA-303, an SA-700, an SA-DX940 and a SL-D20 TT. The 303 and the turntable I have had for over 20 years. I have had the the 940 for 8 years and the 700 for 1 month. I would love to have an SA-1000. I have always loved the look of the SA series. I have lots of other components which I like because they are mine. That's what's important.
I'll shut up now.
 
Just pulled the trigger on a Technics SA-5470 on the 'bay. I liked the looks of the x00 series more, but the xx70 series was my first.... I feel like I have one to honor that series. I've not owned one from the xx70 lineup since I traded my 5170 in on my SA-500 back in 1978. I'm hoping this one will be a keeper :yes:
You lucky dog! I was looking at that one too and had gone to VintageTechnics to check out the specs and 5 minutes later your bid had been excepted. It's exactly like the 5460 but came out in 1977 where as the 5460 was made in 1976. Hopefully your tuning bracket isn't broken. Enjoy!
 
I recently completed a rack mounted Technics system. It all started with the RS9900 monster cassette deck. And now I also have a pre, a tuner, a parametric eq, two power amps and a VU meter. I am also considering a 3rd power amp to build a tri-amp system to power a sub and two satelite speakers.

The quality of construction in this series is exceptional. All switches work fine pots are quiet (but this may have to do more with where the units were kept). And the weight of the units is something to experience.

And the sound of them is great. The tuner, especially, is out of this world. Just like the Revox B760. There may be better ones out there, but this is enough.

I also have one of those units with cardboard base - something that was commented before. It is an RS-M65 cassette deck - slim line. I can understand the cardboard as being part of the slimming process, but I bet a plain metal plate could be mounted there instead. But when I think about it, even the RS-1500 decks have cardboard back covers. But other than that, internally the M65 has nothing to be jealous of the bigger brother, the M85.

On more recent units, I also have a twin deck, a 575. It was middle of the line+ and all plastic. But it works and sounds good. Not as good as a TOTL deck would but it has always been trouble free.

And I also have an RS-B965, a rather TOTL from the latest range. That unit sounds just great and can rival a Revox B710 or B210, or even a R2R deck.

I know it is hard for a brand that makes consumer grade products to achieve hi-end status and probably by absolute standards the Technics units aren't hi-end. But they work well and perform.
 
The SA-101 was my first solid state piece. Used it for years. I wrote a glowing tribute to it somewhere on AK. If bored, do a search and get a laugh allthough it is serious.

SA-101 was my first as well. Bought it used for $35 from a high-end dealer who had taken it as a trade around 1990. Still have it, listening to it right now through a pair of EPI-100s I picked up earlier this year at a garage sale for $5. Call it my budget setup, but I love it.

Out in the garage I have a Concept 2.5, Pioneer SX-950, HPM-100s, Advent/1s, and some other stuff, but I really like the SA-101 with the EPIs for background tunes. Obviously none of my stuff is really high end, though...

Jeff
 
For a similar power output the Superscope has a much larger power supply, with a bigger transformer and a pair of 10,000uf filter caps which I replaced with new 15,000uf Panasonics. The Technics on the other hand has a comparatively wimpy power transformer and a pair of 6800uf caps. While I am a fan of higher end Technics gear, the BOTL stuff is better than some but easily bettered.

No disrespect to you, but for anyone who uses this as an indication of build quality, you are incorrect and malinformed. I'm an electrical engineering student, and spent an entire semester on power supplies and another entire semester on amplifiers. From my experience, my colleagues, and the professor of 30 years, the optimal capacitance is roughly 2600uF per amp drawn. The reason for this is, is the voltage waveform isn't very much flattened by any more than this, and I have a lab report to prove it. Anyway, the reason for the capacitors in the power supply is used to decrease the peak to peak ripple on the load side of the power supply's transformer. There is actually a formula used to determine what the peak to peak ripple shall be based on the capacitance, block time, current drawn, and frequency. HOWEVER, the capacitor can only do such much, due to the amount of time it takes to charge, so we must use regulatory circuits such as zener-biased power transistors to get the waveform as flat as possible. The amount of current drawn by the output transistors, the biggest user of current in a receiver or amplifier is determined by the efficiency of an amplifier which is dependent of the hFE (forward current gain) of the transistors, supply voltages, heatsink characteristics (which requires knowledge of thermodynamics, not fun) and the biasing of the transistors. So ergo, the size of the capacitors in a power supply should not be indicative of build quality, although it doesn't hurt to have a little extra capacitance.

One other thing for those who are curious, the level at which a class AB amplifier (which most receivers are) is least efficient is determined by its figure of merit, which happens to be approximately 5 in that particular configuration. In other words, the amplifier will throw off the greatest amount of heat when the peak to peak output voltage is 1/5th of the maximum peak to peak voltage swing.
/Engineering Jargon.

How was that Echowars? I've come a long way in the last 4 years, eh?
 
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Saw a set of Technics three way floorstanders at GW this evening. They were wonderful shape considering their years, drivers looked absolutely fabulous and the cases were in great shape..... these had been stored well for sure. It was everything I could do to not take 'em home with me just because I never owned a pair back in their heyday!
 
Saw a set of Technics three way floorstanders at GW this evening. It was everything I could do to not take 'em home with me just because I never owned a pair back in their heyday!

I recently scored a pair of these that were about to be delivered to GW...a little bass-heavy for me, but they compliment my smaller speakers (EPI100) pretty well.

Jeff
 
I bought a new Technics SL 1500 MKII 'table in '77. Absolutely gorgeous looks, and, while I don't believe TT's have a sound, carts sure do, and I used a Stanton 881S, through a pair of Infinity Qa's, and later, 901 IV's.

One of the best $400 'tables at the time. ($400 was a lot back then.)

The problem that a lot of these 'tables had was that the cue lever failed after a long time. Mine never did, though...

Superb quartz locked DD stability. A very lightly brushed aluminum, slanted platter added to the looks factor. The digital readout in bright red under the front panel, as well as digital pitch control and the strobe indicator (also under the front panel) made this TT look like a million bucks.
 
How was that Echowars? I've come a long way in the last 4 years, eh?
Lol! Good stuff...

Other reasons for big caps:
-Longer life due to cooler internal temps and running a nice piece below the ripple-current rating.

-Ability to deliver huge amounts of current for brief transients.

-Marketing. Don't sneer at it. If you can't sell it, why make it?
 
Just picked up an SU-V6 amp and although it doesn't have quite the sound I'm looking for (completely different animal to my existing Marantz amp from 2001) it is quite enjoyable. Superb build, semi-class A from what I understand of that (!) and an Ebay bargain at £70 including delivery!

Whether or not it stays in the R_S household is another matter. Mrs. R_S remains unconvinced with its' handling of classical and I have some reservations about its ability to soften a singer's pronunciation - anything beginning with a "b" is lost to some degree for instance. That said, the bass and midrange presence is very good. Circa 25 years old, it's a nice amp.
 
I DJ party's and class reunions as a hobby.I use Technics receivers and
get compliments on the sound at every gig.These things are well built
and sound better than some of those commercial DJ amps.I could easily
find another for a good price if one failed but they never do. I have the
SA-400,SA-500 2ea of the SA-600 and an SA-200 I got for christmas
in about 1980.It has been used weekly since 1980 with no problems.
I did a show after christmas with the 200 hooked to some
Kustom 15" DJ cabs and it sounded great.New years eve I hooked
up the 200 to some hpm 100's and the 600 to the Kustom cabs pigtailed
to one ipod and I had at least 50 people dancing from 10:00 to well
into the morning.Im not saying they sound better than more expensive
brands but they are good and dont get the respect they deserve.
 
Just picked up an SU-V6 amp and although it doesn't have quite the sound I'm looking for (completely different animal to my existing Marantz amp from 2001) it is quite enjoyable. Superb build, semi-class A from what I understand of that (!) and an Ebay bargain at £70 including delivery!

Whether or not it stays in the R_S household is another matter. Mrs. R_S remains unconvinced with its' handling of classical and I have some reservations about its ability to soften a singer's pronunciation - anything beginning with a "b" is lost to some degree for instance. That said, the bass and midrange presence is very good. Circa 25 years old, it's a nice amp.

I've got a SU-V303, not at all bad sound, good build quality.
 
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